Podcast · November 6, 2025

Episode 90 — America First vs White First

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In Episode 90 of The Backlash, Rebecca Hargraves and Dave Reilly break down the growing ideological civil war inside the American Right — the clash between America First and White First. As Nick Fuentes pivots toward a broader, more “mainstream” appeal, critics accuse him of selling out the movement’s radical core. Is he compromised, or just adapting to win power? We also analyze Trump’s embarrassing performance at the Republican Jewish Coalition, Ted Cruz’s shocking admission about pushing for war with Iran, and the collapsing U.S. financial system that could ignite the next phase of America’s internal conflict.

It’s a raw, unfiltered deep dive into the future of nationalism, the limits of loyalty, and the reality of a movement at war with itself.

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Episode 90 Transcript: Episode 90 — America First vs White First.mp4 [00:02:00.000] Dave Reilly: Welcome to the [00:02:29.980] Rebecca Hargraves: Backlash, a weekly exploration of America's awakening. I am your host Rebecca Hargraves joined as always by Mr. Dave Riley. How you doing Dave? [00:02:37.740] Dave Reilly: I'm doing good. How are you? Pretty good. How are you Cameron? [00:02:42.340] Cameron M: I'm doing well guys. Let's get to it. [00:02:45.060] Rebecca Hargraves: All right, you can Iind us on X at real backlash our website the backlash net support us on subscribe star.com slash The backlash patreon.com slash the backlash send your super chats That will be red live at the end of our show to my YouTube channel Bonda the belly of the beast or our our YouTube channel at real backlash or our website the backlash net slash super chat where they take the The smallest cut so that would be preferable for us and for you Make sure you sub to us on YouTube on rumble at backlash podcast all of our links are on our website Instagram Tic-Tac follow us in all the places who really appreciate it and thank you for joining us today. Excuse me I don't know what's going on [00:03:29.220] Dave Reilly: Looping cough. Oh, it's going around. Are you serious? Yep Can you thank the sponsors looking? Yeah, we'd like to thank our sponsors Atlas bullion premier golden silver dealers on the internet They're fantastic. Idaho Tallow company. They make soap without endocrine disruptors and junk and we've got antelope hill publishing Pro- white publishing Iighting to keep history alive [00:03:51.700] Rebecca Hargraves: We got a big donation this week. Yeah, we did we would like to thank this donor for keeping the show alive It was so helpful. I don't know if he's cleared us to talk about it. Not really [00:04:00.540] Dave Reilly: But I did want to send a special thanks to Matt who sent us to grand Amazing, I know we really really appreciate it. I wanted to also read his Reasoning behind it. He sent us an email. I should have printed it out, but I didn't And it is [00:04:20.460] Guest: Right here [00:04:22.980] Dave Reilly: From Matt he said Whoo He was wondering if we got the check because my signature is like a doctor signature He said anyway, no need to thank me your exposure of the anti Christ workings of candlelight Christian fellowship sold me on you guys I hate what they do to you You seem very genuine in your faith in Christ and that is good to see continue to do work for the kingdom of God And that is thanks enough. Thanks again for all you do Matt. Well, thank you Matt [00:04:49.660] Rebecca Hargraves: Thank you so much. Appreciate it. You guys are truly keeping the show alive and we do have a new Sponsor with us. We're very grateful to above- Episode 90 time coffee roasters. Do you smell that? Smell that you can smell it outside of the box. Oh, yeah, you have your knife [00:05:05.820] Dave Reilly: My German knife. It's a yeah, Otter stainless [00:05:10.100] Rebecca Hargraves: Guy I'm sorry guys. I think I've got it under control people get a script from them by the way [00:05:15.520] Dave Reilly: I don't know. I don't know if we've gotten like a script from them [00:05:22.180] Rebecca Hargraves: People get so pissed when you cough on air like you can control it You can't control. I'm sorry. I will not ruin the stream with my coughing. This is a new development [00:05:31.140] Dave Reilly: But we will deIinitely not be ruining the stream with this coffee. Haha There we go, you're gonna hold that up, but we got oh Yeah, Italian organic dark roast coffee nice Smells so good [00:05:48.220] Rebecca Hargraves: Above-time coffee roasters was launched because we saw a need for the creation of a more pro-white business serving our people I haven't a good authority. This is a small batch coffee [00:05:58.100] Dave Reilly: toxin free everyone is hand roasted Small batch to order so it's not sitting around in some warehouse. Oh Is this all the same? No, no, they're all different This one's most upset above-time coffee [00:06:14.820] Rebecca Hargraves: Tag a loss medium roast Not kosher certiIied very true [00:06:21.580] Dave Reilly: Here is their website. It is above-time coffee comm and it's not loading. There we go So you can go to above-time coffee comm they have got this is some of the best smelling coffee that I have Smelled in like a long time next episode. We'll have to Try it out. Yeah, actually like brew a pot. I'm looking forward to it. I'm a bona Iide addict. It's a real problem They've got French press. They've got their this week. This is the ones that we got the blonde roast [00:06:48.860] Guest: Hey, oh [00:06:50.340] Dave Reilly: And the Italian roast. I don't know where that one is but really looking forward to this. They're amazing pro-white company Give them your business We do appreciate it and by the way, we have an antelope Discount code now 10% off with your purchase if you put in promo code backlash 10 [00:07:08.900] Guest: Nice [00:07:09.940] Rebecca Hargraves: We're gonna be talking elections the RJC right wing ideological civil war and what this means for the movement Dave Do you want to talk a little bit about the elections? Take us away? Episode 90 [00:07:21.700] Dave Reilly: Mom Donnie won the CIA won Virginia. That's it. That's the whole thing [00:07:27.140] Rebecca Hargraves: Why is that? [00:07:28.980] Dave Reilly: Why is what why did they win? Why did why do I'm Donnie win? Well, I'm Donnie won because the Republicans only care about Israel and You know the vote of split plus a lot of people in New York wouldn't come out and vote for Cuomo So I'm Donnie won And he's essentially a front for like MI6 and CIA He was born in Uganda and then left early on. I believe this was during E.B. I mean His tenure in Uganda he went to England work with the Front company with MI6 went back to Uganda and then came to America where he went to a school in Maine That's like a CIA feeder school And then New York became a citizen started his campaign and now he won so [00:08:14.500] Rebecca Hargraves: You mentioned that this is due to the the Israel coalition failures [00:08:19.420] Dave Reilly: That is a big part of it. Then there's also this issue of you know There he's clearly backed by the CIA Alex Soros George Soros is a CIA guy So Yeah, he took over there and then in Virginia all of the candidates that are there are deep-state CIA people so They are reasserting dominance. We are seeing the Israel coalition more broadly [00:08:41.020] Rebecca Hargraves: Fail and I was thinking about why is this today? Why are we seeing myriad failures amongst the cause of Israel and one of the things that we talk about all the time is that? their messaging is is just Collapsing as the truth gets out about Gaza and the other thing Cameron sent us this this interesting clip He said I think that when he sent this he's like people think we can't we can't Iight these people I just Israel week or if you can pull that up Dave Around 200,000 older Orthodox Jews brought West Jerusalem to a standstill to protest plans to draft them into the Israeli army Following last year's court decision to overturn conscription exemptions for Jewish seminary students The move has become a political headache for Netanyahu whose coalition relies on their support So did we play this whole clip? Yeah, I mean it's looping Yeah, I mean there's no coverage of this Nobody is really talking about this and I think that we fall into this trap of seeing Israel as a united front as impossible to defeat and As so enmeshed with United States interest interest that we just we just can't do anything about it But I think that the problem might take care of itself. What do you think Cameron? [00:09:50.700] Cameron M: Well, look, I think what's happening is Israel it seems is on the cusp of becoming a failed state So, you know, I think Dave mentioned at the inception of the podcast that there's this 80 year cycle That seems to be devil Jewish states. They can't seem to exceed it Well, they've got Iive six seven fronts that they're Iighting abroad We're well versed in those we've talked about those they include states like Iran They include Iighting the Houthis they include Iighting Hezbollah Hamas Obviously you have the the conIlict brewing in the background with Iran Netanyahu has added the propaganda war but then there's the internal war and the fact of the matter is that Netanyahu is taking a country that's very fragile That's divided that has serious sectarian divisions within it I mean very serious commentators people that I trust like Elon Papi have said that Israel was on the path to a civil war before October 2023 and so he took this very fragile and divided state Episode 90 Essentially Consolidated around a hardcore Right-wing religious Ideology alienating a lot of the Ashkenazi Jews in the country and he is now stuck with that coalition and a shrinking population and putting them into a war footing and Needless to say the Jewish population isn't isn't prepared for that They assume that the United States would step in and Iight all the wars So I think what you're seeing is the collapse of Israel as the state and the support Domestically the United States as you point out Rebecca that has collapsed and interestingly enough It's collapsed because they're under siege both on the right From people in America Iirst obviously we talk about that at length But it's also because of what's happened on the left and this is the self-destruction that these people Invite every hundred two hundred some odd years and that's what we're seeing on display This is a massive win for us as a country And I think it'll probably be conducive the world peace the question is how much collateral damage? Will there be before you get some kind of a regime change in Israel that stops these crazy wars that I'm sure I don't know [00:12:21.340] Rebecca Hargraves: Do you think we the American America the American government has the impetus or the resources to? Swoop in and protect them from failed state status [00:12:31.020] Cameron M: No, we don't you know remember we we Basically have Israel and life support at any given time. It's not just that we support them militarily We support their entire economy. We have for some time, but now resources are scarce We have our own problems to deal with and we're embroiled in conIlicts all over the world The latest being Venezuela and I think that there was an assumption By many Zionist groups in the United States that we had limitless resources that we were in the impregnable wall That could always be turned to whenever the Israelis needed it and it turns out that that's not the case So yeah, I think they're in big trouble Needless to say we aren't out of the woods Nothing that I said is gonna prevent us from plunging into a war at their behest They still control Congress as they pointed out a moment ago. They still wield tremendous political power But the the bottom line is that they've been exposed everybody knows who's really running the US government They know about their untoward inIluence They know about Epstein and so their inIluence has peaked and now it's beginning to roll over and eventually that's gonna create Real conIlict and backlash hence the name of our show That's coming and I suspect that will that will really Escalate when the Iinancial system goes which which I think is operating in the background to [00:13:58.820] Rebecca Hargraves: How much of the economic situation do you think has? How much do you think it has contribute to the election outcomes Dave? What how much has our current economic system contributed to the election outcomes? What election outcomes from this week? [00:14:13.500] Dave Reilly: I mean a lot I guess Actually not really no, I don't think so. I'm saying a lot of people cite that but I'm I kind of agree. I mean the Mamdani thing wasn't about The economy the Mamdani thing was an anti Zionist play right in New York It was the people in New York that are fed up with the Jewish landlords that have been scalping their people raising the rent prices and then taking the proIits from New York To Israel to bomb Gaza and that's what that was about right? Episode 90 [00:14:44.580] Rebecca Hargraves: I've been hearing a lot of talk this week about ideological civil war about civil war in the United States What that is going to look like I had a few clips about that. Can you pull up too? I mean our our economic situation is Worse than I think the average person Realizes even people that are not doing well don't realize How much of the country can't handle a $500 emergency? That a third of people are living near below the poverty line. Let's play this clip really quick Worse than Jimmy doors well don't realize we've got an how much of the country there we go [00:15:24.660] Dave Reilly: 25 29% of Americans are considered low-income [00:15:29.500] Guest: that's according to the US Census Bureau and the [00:15:33.580] Dave Reilly: That that's 98 million Americans Lord 29% of the population 98 million Americans are considered low-income and what I've said for years is What do you call a system that takes the richest country in the world and? renders a hundred million of its population low-income you call that a failed system That's what I would call that and then [00:15:58.540] Guest: 70% of the people [00:16:00.740] Dave Reilly: Working live paycheck to paycheck and half the people in the country can't afford a $500 emergency What do you call that you call that a failed system? Those are not individuals failing that's your that's your system your country en masse failing and Just one more before I get to the video highlights [00:16:20.820] Guest: so [00:16:21.820] Dave Reilly: The CEO to worker pay ratio it rose from 40 so used to be a worker made a dollar and the CEO made 42 That was back in 1980 well now as of 2021 the worker makes a dollar the CEO makes [00:16:38.460] Rebecca Hargraves: 351 dollars that's an incredible statistic can we pull up three? The middle class is being completely destroyed and this is not a left or right issue This clip from CNN was somewhat shocking They were just talking about how they're concerned that the erosion of the middle class is going to prevent the immersion the emergence of future billionaires [00:16:59.820] Dave Reilly: You wanted to see this one. Yeah, I think it's pretty short 324. So now normally they talk about things being left right. Let's watch here [00:17:06.820] Cameron M: We go Iirst a civil war will probably prevent more [00:17:11.820] Dave Reilly: Who cares so he just said the civil war Will probably prevent more billionaires from happening and they're upset because More billionaires means a healthy economy that is not what it means It means a worsening economy and a bigger income inequality and rich and poor and the middle class being squeezed out That's what more billionaires means But they're upset about this and they say the civil war is coming watch this civil war will probably prevent more Probably we're hearing about that more and more I think Dahlia spout net that Episode 90 [00:17:47.140] Cameron M: ProIit the civil war is coming just take the class struggle because of not between the north and south [00:17:52.500] Dave Reilly: Oh, no, no between the head. Yeah, exactly like let me take it guillotine [00:17:58.660] Guest: Gotham types of mom Donnie [00:18:01.020] Dave Reilly: so [00:18:02.780] Guest: There it is so that [00:18:05.500] Dave Reilly: Normally on cable news they only talk about left right well right there They talk about what James Corbett talks about in this book Up down so they're talking about it's not left versus right. It's up down It's the masses against the oligarchs the billionaire. Yes, and James Corbett was on this episode [00:18:27.020] Rebecca Hargraves: I encourage you guys to watch this whole thing. It was it was really interesting But James Corbett brings an important point because when I hear people talking about civil war, I want to save that deIinition [00:18:36.620] Guest: for mass [00:18:39.060] Rebecca Hargraves: Violence like I heard Nick say it a bunch of times this week I've heard a lot of people say it at the Jewish convention And it makes me nervous it makes me nervous to kind of change the deIinition But I guess I didn't really understand that there are multiple levels of Civil war and that we are experiencing some of them. This is James Corbett clip for [00:18:57.220] Dave Reilly: Okay, I think there are three levels of warfare that we're talking about here The Iirst and overarching one that is already happening is the Iifth generation war on everyone So for people who don't know military theorists have been talking about four generations of war for a long time There was the old kind where armies would line up on battleIields and shoot at each other That developed and developed and then we started get the guerrilla warfare and things that we saw in Vietnam and fourth generation warfare Now there's something called Iifth generation warfare, which is essentially the governments of nations warring against their own citizens economically with bio hazards and biosecurity threats and with Information warfare everything that you can think of basically the oligarchs who really run the country not the politicians trying to control the masses in various ways But when the population starts to wake up to realize, oh, hey, there's this warfare And I think the it's the government that's warring against us What do you do about that? And that's when you start to get into that revolutionary war kind of thing that the you know the CNBC hosts or whoever are fretting about oh my god This might prevent more billionaires from rising [00:20:03.780] Guest: but [00:20:05.340] Dave Reilly: At that moment, I think there is that kind of crisis moment of realization and hey We've got to do something about this the question is what will the oligarchs do about that and we saw in 2008? The last time we saw that sort of realization. Episode 90 Hey, what what the hell is happening? Suddenly there's a seven hundred billion dollar bailout on the table that remember when that was a lot of money and people were starting to Too big to jail all of that sort of stuff. That's a revolutionary moment people start rising up You got people on the right in the Tea Party got people on the left in Occupy Wall Street Basically saying the same thing we're the 99% there's 1% at the top that's trying to control us So what do they do they make everything about transgender bathrooms? And that becomes you know the big talking point of the 2010s and bye-bye all of that talk into [00:20:51.180] Rebecca Hargraves: How they've created these cultural issues so that we will turn on our neighbors and not Iight the oligarchs and that seems Fairly obvious based on what we've been talking about. So I guess my question is we've got this very weak Iinancial situation Israel is Doubling down their weak weakening internally Public support in America's in an all-time low What is going to become of our government and are we truly in a civil war? Let's go to you Cameron [00:21:17.300] Cameron M: Well, look what you heard is a very leftist superIicial assessment of where we are the situation is a lot more complex than that It's not the haves versus the have nots are these tiny cabal of people That run everything I rather tire of hearing that especially when you ask follow-up questions like to whom exactly you're referring Who are the oligarchs per se if you go back to 2010? I remember the Tea Party distinctly in fact I was I was part of it early on when it got when it got started and I remember Occupy Wall Street Well Occupy Wall Street is basically these tentacles that started in major cities not just in the US either there were several in Europe and they were just communists most of these people they wanted to eliminate private property They wanted to guillotine people that had money. I mean, it's all kinds of crazy shit however, there was a very real consciousness among them that Zionism that Jewish power had a lot to do with the Iinancial mess And I distinctly remember the left trying to suppress that because they didn't want that to become the dominant characteristic vault Occupy Wall Street the Tea Party was altogether different Tea Party was focused primarily on the national debt and the bailouts and It's establishing Iiscal discipline and I think the Tea Party failed In large measure because they refused to become a new party That's something we've talked about on this platform before instead They just said well, we'll try and change the Republican Party from within a lot of people still think that way And as I've said before I think that that is a massive mistake a better way to think about things I think is is threefold the Iirst is that The elites or the oligarchs if you want to call them that are not monolithic They're not I put them in three basic groups There's Iinancial elites and we all know for the most part who they are there people like Larry Fink who owns Black Rock They tend to be Wall Streeters hedge fund managers central bankers people of that ilk Howard Lutnik is a Wall Streeter Right. He's a Iinancial elite then you have the Zionists and I would subsume the neocons underneath them And these are people that dominate they tend to be they're overwhelmingly Jewish and they tend to dominate our foreign affairs And they try to plunge the United States Into all manner of conIlict around the globe because they want to leverage American military power to create global hegemony and then thirdly Thirdly you've got the revolutionaries and the revolutionaries are people like an Apple Bomb Noam Chomsky, you know, this is David Brock at media matters These are people that want to invert society culturally racially Religiously and otherwise these three groups don't always align in fact They can be quite fragmented But what is absolutely clear to me is that nobody's really in Episode 90 control of the government It's this this notion that there's a monolithic political structure That is a mistake as we've said before there are many different agencies like the CIA that are rogue that have their own interests and The one thing they have they all have in common to be sure is that they undermine the national interest There's no question about that, but it doesn't mean that they're all swimming in the same direction either So this is an oversimpliIication the other thing is the the leftist mantra It's the haves against the have not suggest that these racial Divides that we have religious divides linguistic divides cultural divides that those are artiIicial that they're distractions. No, they're not They're fundamental. I think race is the most fundamental divide in the United States today It's the most hotly contested issue in the United States today other than the JQ, which is why we talk about it all the time That's not Iictitious. It's not a distraction That is at the epicenter of everything that we're dealing with so that represents a war against white America and its replacement That's what this whole thing is about. It's not the haves versus the have nots or the 1% or versus the 99% There are elements of those things but fundamentally speaking what you have is a government that's completely out of control a government that's been sabotaged and subverted by Foreign interests rogue interests domestically would have you and thirdly a government is just doesn't work anymore a Constitutional framework that is broken structurally Systemically etc. That's the situation that we face that means you could get all manner of conIlict I think we're in a revolutionary moment. I think that's the right way to look at it But there's no question that tribalism is ascendant and as the economy really starts to crumble You're gonna see an intensiIication of that everywhere and that's what we're seeing Chicago Philadelphia Los Angeles it goes on and on and that's only gonna get worse [00:26:29.380] Rebecca Hargraves: Right and I think that this was really evidence at the rjc this week I couldn't believe some of the stuff that I was seeing even though I expected I expected kind of all of these things. It was still astonishing to hear I wanted to play a little bit of trump's speech Um, I don't know how he managed to be servile and self aggrandizing at the same time It's like only he could do this. We don't have to watch this whole thing. He basically just glazes israel for four minutes But let's watch a little bit [00:26:54.260] Guest: Hello to everyone at the republican jewish coalition and congratulations on 40 amazing years I want to thank your national chairman former senator norm colman Along with your ceo matt brooks and my friend miriam adelson and so many other incredible supporters distinguished guests out in beautiful Las vegas Four days from now we will celebrate the one year anniversary of the most important election victory in the history of our country With the help of many of you we won all seven swing states by millions of votes We won the electoral college 312 to 226 [00:27:30.580] Cameron M: We won the popular vote for the Iirst time of any republican in decades and we won 86 of the counties in america 2,700 to 525 and very importantly the rjc helped [00:27:45.060] Dave Reilly: Ensure that we won the highest percentage of jewish vote of any republicans since [00:27:51.940] Guest: 1988 i can't imagine we didn't do better than that after all i've done for the jewish vote I must be honest with you, but that's okay 1988's not that bad Episode 90 [00:28:01.220] Rebecca Hargraves: One year ago. We were a dead country. He was nagging the jews on this. Yeah, was that you? Was it that part that you're talking about? Oh, okay, so you think that that was tongue-in-cheek? Yeah Ah, what do you think cameron? He seems sincere to me [00:28:13.700] Cameron M: I don't know. He's bought and paid for it's just shameless I mean of all the shit that's going on in this country Some of which we just went through, you know the economic hardship to sit there And shamelessly cow-tow to these people who have nothing but hostility and hatred for this country And are actively involved in destroying it. It's just unconscionable But I guess that's donald trump for you Whoever the highest bidder is well, that's the attention that that's on him and I I just it's unacceptable It really is this guy is a total fraud. He's just a total fraud [00:28:51.220] Rebecca Hargraves: Let's watch this leaven crash out. I wish I I wanted to compile more of this But this is probably the most important part, but he just spent So much time crashing out spectacularly and I just want [00:29:03.460] Guest: the anti-american [00:29:07.460] Cameron M: Anti-israel anti west crowd to understand something [00:29:14.820] Guest: You're gonna have to come through me and millions of people just like me [00:29:18.660] Cameron M: And you're not gonna make it. Oh, no, you think you're stupid little podcast. You're stupid little [00:29:26.580] Guest: Subscription program or your little tv show Or maybe you have a little radio show Is going to change the world like hell it is notifying everybody else have something to say about it [00:29:38.660] Rebecca Hargraves: And I just want unreal he has a podcast And a radio show. What is he talking about? He knows the legacy media doesn't inIluence people in the same way that it used to This is so insulting not to mention that he's going to be the arbiter of of what is right of what the american people Want anyway, he just continues he calls out tucker carlson and candesones and nick fuentes blah blah blah blah He does all the same thing the the most astonishing speech though. I think from anybody was what randy Iine said This was just too on the nose. No pun intended [00:30:09.540] Cameron M: I am here to Iight and we are in a time where we need Fighters we need people to go out and Iight [00:30:15.140] Dave Reilly: We need people who are not going to be afraid because if we stay silent [00:30:19.700] Cameron M: In the in the face of what is coming not only on the left But on our own side as well our time in this country could come to an end as well Jews have been kicked out of every country we've ever lived and it's never been our own fault Episode 90 [00:30:31.300] Guest: And there are people who would like to do the same to us here and unfortunately [00:30:34.340] Cameron M: Some of them are in our own party, but I can promise you this as long as I'm in congress [00:30:39.780] Rebecca Hargraves: It's just unreal to hear them say this like what is he thinking? I heard mark dice to say today like I've been kicked out of every bar I've ever been to over a hundred bars and it's never been my fault. They really believe this and [00:30:52.980] Dave Reilly: Paranoia delusion [00:30:55.620] Cameron M: arrogance paranoia delusion and as I as I said repeatedly if you're arrogant Uh, you don't have self-awareness. You don't really know what's going on if you're paranoid and you see monsters everywhere You don't have a grip on reality You become delusional and when that happens you start making very poor decisions But what you're seeing is an unmasking. This is how these people this who these people are [00:31:22.420] Guest: They're telling you who they are [00:31:23.620] Cameron M: They're saying basically if you strip it down if you oppose our dominance of your society If you oppose our will we will fucking destroy you. This is what they think of you be our slave be subservient Be dominated by us and like it or else Uh, this is outrageous. This is nonsense. But what it does tell you is that they're scared They're very afraid because they're losing control. No question about it. Yeah, reeked of desperation. They seemed um [00:31:54.980] Rebecca Hargraves: Increasing I don't think speech can be violent per se, but that they seemed very desperate about um A coming civil war about the dissolution of the conservative movement as we know it Ben Shapiro came out with this video which was 40 minutes long Nick Fuentes said, you know, he's serious because he didn't play any ads Which is totally true. But um, I just want to play this little clip He's talking about what an american is and like he's the purveyor of truth or americanism despite being a jew and a dual citizen [00:32:27.460] Dave Reilly: americans hate tucker carlson's Laundered anti americanism republicans think it's trash independence think it's trash democrats think it's trash americans are not pro segregation pro rape anti-woman pro child marriage anti black anti jew anti indian anti latino anti constitution pro hitler nutjobs like nick fuentes And americans are not pro putin pro iran pro china pro venezuela pro chamas pro fuentes Protates idiots like tucker carlson They hate this vile garbage If republicans decide to cower before the likes of neo nazis and their propagandizers they deserve to lose [00:33:04.340] Guest: And they will lose [00:33:05.860] Dave Reilly: Neo nazis and their propagandizers are not republicans. They are not america Iirst. They are not maga. They sure as hell aren't conservative These people aren't to my right. They are not attached in any way to the fundamental principles of conservatism And these people have already declared themselves to be my enemies I'd be a Episode 90 fool not to take them seriously If they get their way they will hollow out the republican party Lead it to electoral catastrophe and empty it and the country of any semblance of decency in the process My answer is no No to the groipers no to their publicists like tucker carlson No to those who champion them no to demoralization No to bigotry and anti meritocratic horse shit No to anti americanism No, this is our country. This is our party and this is our conservative movement And I will not stand by while it is handed over to those who betray the most fundamental principles I've spent my entire life defending and advocating That is a path to defeat and a path to moral oblivion I reject it because if we lose the right we will lose to the left and either way we'll lose the country I'm ben Shapiro. This is the ben Shapiro show [00:34:18.180] Rebecca Hargraves: Americans as is evidenced by that CNBC clip. This is not a part of the left right dichotomy We have multiple Iissures in the conservative movement one is between Zionists and anti zionists And then we're having this groper the Wignat thing going on and it seems like There is just so much tension within conservatism because we're having a problem Trying to decide what we are what the movement is about who is our leadership and where we're going You want to talk about this day? No [00:34:48.420] Cameron M: Let me let me let me just address the ben Shapiro stuff Iirst and then and then let's let's Get to the fontes stuff Much of what ben Shapiro said Is absolutely correct uh, what he's describing is a pluralistic america and as I've said before And uh, perhaps I I don't do as as good of a job as I need to of articulating it That america is is dead. It's dying The united states as as represented by us the three of us on this podcast by the ethnos as I like to say The real america That america is not dying The heartbeat of that america is beginning to beat and that is what is Particularly alarming to ben Shapiro, but if you go through in detail what he says Uh, am I a conservative? No, I don't want to conserve pluralistic america I don't want to live in a multiracial society where whites become a shrinking minority in their own society I don't want to live at the behest of jewish dominance All of those things are the core pillars of his conservatism And indeed that's what the conservative party represents. You just heard it from our dear president He essentially has capitulated and enslaved himself to jewish power. That's what conservatism is to that So no, we'd have nothing to do with conservatism We are eating the republican party. The republican party is a fossil It's a disease fossil that was destroyed by jewish subversion. We know that so Basically everything that that fuente that uh Shapiro said more or less Is exactly correct and that is why I've said that we are in a state of becoming We are creating new political organizations and political organizations On the road to a completely transformed and reawakened america and he Wants nothing to do with that because in that america ben Shapiro and jewish power And this mishmash of different racial groups are not the dominant paradigm In fact, they will be challenged overthrown and expelled and that is the future of this country He fears it. I think he knows that it's coming and it is there's nothing you can do to stop it [00:37:22.740] Rebecca Hargraves: Right and I think we've seen what happens when your movement is built on what you are not what you are against If you don't deIine the positive values of a movement Then what really are you and then that I think that that represents kind of these growing pains I mean, we're going to talk about this nick wentis thing. I know this is a highly contentious subject and before we talk about it All I'm not anti groeper. I Episode 90 want nick to succeed. I like Nick he has done a lot of good work for the movement. He has sacriIiced a lot But um, we we still need to talk about this because there is this massive issue on the right my dms are just Iilled with um With it's america Iirst versus versus white Iirst. So we're gonna pull up clip nine We're gonna talk about what fuentes has said in the last I think this was like Iive or six days ago [00:38:11.940] Dave Reilly: Some backbone get the courage of your convictions if you're out there And by the way, I don't care what color you are. I know maybe that's going to be controversial on my side [00:38:22.980] Guest: but seriously [00:38:25.460] Dave Reilly: If you have citizenship if you were born in this country, this is your birthright This is our lives. This is our rights This is our heritage It's our tax dollars. It's our government. It's our military. This is our country. This is our empire I'll unite with anybody who proclaims america Iirst above all other countries including and especially israel [00:38:55.380] Guest: And [00:38:57.780] Dave Reilly: They're on the other side of this one and they're wrong They need to be put back in their place [00:39:04.580] Rebecca Hargraves: I think the concern here anybody who says that america should come second needs [00:39:09.300] Guest: Was that it? Yeah [00:39:10.900] Rebecca Hargraves: I think the concern here is that we are going to become civic nationalists with An anti israel bend now that would be a great improvement on the civic nationalism that we've seen in the past israel is the real problem But for ethno- nationalists hearing that we have to you know, bring Minorities into the fold to succeed that that has been problematic And so there was a lot of backlash from who does nick mentioned speciIically mentioned steven stack asha logos Someone else let's play clip 10. I can't remember who the other person was [00:39:48.980] Dave Reilly: Is that true separately do you believe just because a mexican was born here that they have a birthright Mexicans were only 4% of the pop-up until 1970 and are the largest collective of welfare recipients Etc a foreigner in the bible is not determined by paperwork, but by blood. Well, I love that. I'm glad you brought that up So on my show last week We're talking about israel Iirst versus america Iirst [00:40:07.940] Rebecca Hargraves: And I said that josh hammer his wife is israeli his kids are israeli. I said they're not even from here I said if you're from here if you're born here, I said this is your birthright [00:40:18.180] Cameron M: This is america and I saw all of my ankle biters in the pro- white movement Episode 90 [00:40:24.500] Dave Reilly: Took that clip and they said is nick wentis endorsing birthright citizenship Do you think that is the point of that clip? We're talking about america Iirst versus israel Iirst We're talking about people that literally are foreigners. They're foreign nationals Bossing us around intimidating us controlling our system in this context I said if you're born in america if you're citizen, this is your birthright [00:40:50.900] Rebecca Hargraves: Their interpretation of that is oh, so [00:40:54.500] Guest: anchor babies [00:40:56.180] Dave Reilly: Oh in america really that's what you got from that Me telling people americans should take pride in being american it That's what you got out of that And what was funny is the only people that heard it that way were like so-called white nationalists [00:41:14.660] Guest: Isn't that amazing? [00:41:16.260] Dave Reilly: Because I haven't proven that i'm pro-white like I do a show every night I was at charlottesville. I I opposed donald trump in the election because he wasn't in favor of an immigration moratorium I'm against donald trump because he's not deporting enough people I say this every night and they took this little loophole semantic thing and said oh, so I guess he's in favor and you know This is why I have a real problem with a lot of white nationalists. It's not because of what they believe. It's because of how they act [00:41:49.620] Guest: Shouldn't you be supporting me? [00:41:51.860] Dave Reilly: Like isn't this a time when our people should be circling the wagons around each other? Like there's this all-out attack from the republican jewish coalition from mark levin from [00:42:03.140] Rebecca Hargraves: Like we're we're in the battle over american sovereignty [00:42:06.980] Dave Reilly: Shouldn't you people who are supposed to be pro-white? [00:42:10.500] Guest: like [00:42:11.620] Cameron M: I'm not pro-white enough suddenly in what way [00:42:15.540] Dave Reilly: Because of a semantic way that you interpreted that [00:42:19.300] Rebecca Hargraves: And they use it as an opportunity to attack me to one- up me [00:42:23.940] Cameron M: And score a point and say oh, I'm gonna take the piss. I had this little clip. Yeah, I like nick, but this was no good [00:42:30.980] Guest: Really? [00:42:32.100] Rebecca Hargraves: And so I just everybody that did that is dead to me Episode 90 [00:42:35.860] Dave Reilly: so I saw um Devin stax say that I saw asha logo say that Uh, eric orwal arville is DMing me saying are you against birthright citizenship in DMs? [00:42:48.900] Guest: Really? [00:42:49.940] Dave Reilly: How are you gonna be pro-white you can't you're not even gonna support me How are you for all white people and you know ecumenical pro-white politics? You're gonna throw me under the bus? [00:43:02.500] Rebecca Hargraves: I mean that maybe this is less of a problem of big tent Conservatism and more of a problem of whether or not we believe that america is salvageable and I I personally don't think we can use any system to Save a country that is not salvageable, which is why I disagree with this position [00:43:21.540] Guest: Dave [00:43:23.300] Dave Reilly: You're wrong. That's it. Okay, Dave. You're gonna have to get into this. No, I don't I'm not gonna fucking participate in this Why because it's bullshit fucking ankle biting exactly what he's talking about [00:43:33.460] Rebecca Hargraves: I I just don't think that we should have any person that's beyond reproach. He is he's just a man [00:43:38.500] Dave Reilly: It's not a matter of it being beyond reproach. It's a matter of are you gonna try to fucking Iix this goddamn country or not And you're not you didn't even fucking vote yesterday. Yeah, I did not I did not and you're and guess what you're fucked now You've got dan guccon and as mayor my vote clearly wouldn't have made a difference. Yeah, it would it was 500 votes It was 500 votes. What the fuck did henrik and lana do jack shit What did any of the white nationalists in cortelain do nothing? Nothing they did fucking nothing. I sat on the phone for Iive hours and made phone calls on monday I sat out in the rain for two hours yesterday Campaigning for these people and we won in post falls where I made my calls where I volunteered and cortelain did jack shit And then I've got people like devon stack coming at me on twitter Trying to tell me about my fucking state Quoting bullshit from ai that's completely wrong Saying that phil mcgrain is the outgoing mayor of cortelain. He's the fucking secretary of state He's not the outgoing mayor of cortelain There is not a bunch of money coming in from dorthy moon and the idaho geopeded back dan guccon The fucking republican party sued his ass last year They sued him The republican party up here has been against the chamber of commerce for Iive or six years now This is the whole fucking point of it and we've got these retards like devon stack and arville and apparently my co-hosts Who instead of throwing in and working together as a team to make this country a better place for our kids [00:45:19.620] Guest: We're gonna [00:45:20.740] Dave Reilly: Fucking ankle bite nick fuentes because he said something that was taken out of context by a bunch of fucking people Who hate jesus christ who hate the church and who hate this country? Episode 90 [00:45:31.940] Rebecca Hargraves: I have never taken any other position Except that i'm an ethno nationalist that believes that america is failing and i have been totally consistent in that in my not voting I mean will i vote in local politics in future? I don't know maybe probably But there's no reason to say that levying a mild criticism that's something that nick fuentes has said is me undermining the movement [00:45:53.140] Dave Reilly: This isn't about leveling a mild criticism against it. No it is We've got one kid that is going and hurling himself at the jewish establishment like a human fucking hand grenade He has had everything in the kitchen sink thrown at him for the last 10 years. I've lost friendships over nick fuentes I have been smeared in the press over nick fuentes And then all of a sudden when nick fuentes breaches the outer wall and starts making a fucking difference And people are waking up and starting to see this getting on the same page joining a movement and making a difference And we're gonna sit back and fucking ankle bite and be and be like oh [00:46:29.700] Rebecca Hargraves: I reject i reject I reject that this is ankle biting. We did the same thing to donald trump when we felt like our mission Totally different trump is being Iinished when we felt like his mission was going on Of course, it is incumbent on the people of a movement the people of a country to keep their leaders on track And that I believe that that's what we're doing. He is not nick is off track I in this yes, I do and i'm allowed to have an opinion that that that that diverges from his I didn't leave a show where I couldn't say what I want to join a show where i'm not allowed to say what I want Because i'm afraid of the wrath of the groepers. I'm afraid of the groepers. I truly am but like i'll take their licks here because Because I disagree with nick and i'm allowed to disagree with nick It doesn't mean I don't like him as a person or I want the movement to fail But I fundamentally disagree with the concept of big tent conservatism and using the system of the united states government To try to change the bloated system of the united states government I disagree with that entirely america is a project I see it as a failure and I just care more about White people across the world than I do about america and that's the difference here That doesn't mean that I want the america Iirst movement to fail It doesn't mean that I think groepers are losers. I don't I mean my heart is in ethno nationalism But i'm also very sympathetic to the groeper cause so I don't like these accusations being leveled at me because I have been principled and I have been honest and I would never speak to you this way I would never call you a retard dav I would never speak to you this way privately I would never speak to speak to you this way publicly And I don't agree with this with this characterization of me. That's not what I did Um, I just think this is so unfair Cameron can we get you in here? Can you be the dad? [00:48:13.220] Cameron M: Yeah, well look, uh, obviously it's an emotional issue for especially dav and I understand that And I do think fuentes has done a lot of good things right things that we've talked about on the show before My question to dav is If you were to take a clip of what we just watched and I have to say I don't watch fuentes material So i'm not an expert in in what he says I've seen some clips here and there But if you were to take that clip And go back six months and show it to fuentes six months ago And say hey, what do you think of this? My guess is fuentes would Ilame himself I mean that that take was incoherent. It was defensive. It was very odd Uh, I don't think I've ever seen fuentes talk like that. I mean constant Equivocations something's going on here. I don't know what it is Episode 90 Others have talked about it over the last few weeks particularly since uh charlie kerks death I don't know. I don't want to speculate but my question to dav is Do you not think that even 90 days ago? [00:49:18.980] Dave Reilly: That his position was very different than what we just heard. No, I think it's exactly the same as what it's been since the fucking beginning [00:49:26.900] Cameron M: It's america Iirst. Fuentes said that white people are facing. I don't want to put words in his mouth But he's basically talked about the fact that white people in this country. Okay Have have been disadvantaged have been oppressed have been replaced For I don't know the bulk of a decade and now all of a sudden that's being tabled In some kind of broad big tent message That accepts birthright citizenship. That's not what he's saying. He's he I'm sorry. They don't cohere [00:49:57.380] Dave Reilly: He never said that he accepts birthright citizenship Like didn't we just fucking watch a clip of him saying I did he said I don't care [00:50:05.620] Cameron M: I don't care what you are That's what he said. We can go back and play it again [00:50:13.060] Rebecca Hargraves: Yeah, it was if you want to play it again, it was clip. Um, it's the clip that's up on the screen right now clip nine I think no, no, I think that that was the one where he said white nationalists are dead Yeah, no, no, it's clip nine. This is this is the clip separately. No, this is where he talks about white nationalists being dead [00:50:29.620] Dave Reilly: Where he have a bird devil is not you're not you people have a show last week [00:50:33.060] Rebecca Hargraves: We're talking about is real Iirst versus america what he originally said and I said the prime thing is hammer his wife [00:50:39.060] Dave Reilly: Is is really you want to you want to I said they're not even you want to argue with like the dead word [00:50:44.420] Rebecca Hargraves: Cameron was referencing you want to argue with the dead word Cameron was referencing the original clip [00:50:48.020] Dave Reilly: Which was taken out of context. He was talking about josh hammer. Then let's hear what he has to say you have the Truncated clip [00:50:55.860] Rebecca Hargraves: What did he say what did he say before that before he said I don't I this might be controversial, but I don't care what color you are [00:51:03.060] Guest: Yeah [00:51:04.020] Rebecca Hargraves: But but we're not talking about birthright citizenship. I mean that We're talking about allying with minority groups in order to achieve a popular america Iirst movement versus An ethno nationalist and homogenous People not necessarily that's not yeah, and and that's the difference Episode 90 [00:51:22.500] Dave Reilly: I just don't understand what you people aren't understanding about this. We are occupied by zionist jewish power They own the levers of congress the presidency the Ibi the cia And we need to launch an offensive To put america Iirst as opposed to israel Iirst until that problem is solved We are never going to make this country better for the middle class for white people for anyone [00:51:47.860] Guest: period [00:51:49.060] Dave Reilly: It's very simple How many illegal immigrants are there in the united states, davis somewhere between 25 and 50 million? [00:51:56.260] Cameron M: Yeah, I'd say that constitutes an existential crisis. I agree and guess what nothing is happening Metropolitan areas in the united states sure and most metropolitan areas aren't I think that is equally I think that is equally important I I think what what we are Saying rebecca and I is not that this is some revelation. It's not it's that our views At least until recently seemed to be In lockstep with uh with fuentes He seems to have changed his opinion and I think that's what these other folks are getting at now. Maybe i'm wrong I don't know. I didn't watch the whole clip. Uh, maybe it was taken out of context But what I will say is and in that second clip he seems rather defensive And I don't know why what why does he have to qualify and say oh well? I have done this that and there's no need for that if you've done it you've done it right So I something else is going on here. That's that's what it suggests to me and I don't know what that is [00:52:52.500] Rebecca Hargraves: Well, I think that the criticism is that he's moving towards a more centrist position to be more palatable to the masses That is the criticism that i'm seeing levite against him. He has been going on all of these shows So I think davis defensive because It seems like he's breaking through and now we're taking that opportunity to criticize him, but I mean He he did say this [00:53:16.500] Dave Reilly: He did say this davis great. So let's fucking kill him. Let's throw the whole fucking thing out Let's wreck the entire thing And throw it out because that's never gonna do anything. What the fuck is wrong with you people [00:53:29.140] Guest: Where you have one person that says one thing [00:53:31.940] Dave Reilly: In a longer two fucking in a half hour long show And then you take this 10 second clip and then throw the whole fucking thing out [00:53:40.260] Rebecca Hargraves: This is such nonsense black and white thinking I never I preface this whole thing by saying I hope nick fuentes succeeds. I hope he succeeds I hope he does what we want him to do that he continues to be the representative of the movement and of our actual interest That is what I hope I never said that we should throw the baby out with the bath water or that nick is not useful to the movement Or that he hasn't done good work the idea. So we're just gonna sit here like a bunch of zionist Jews and criticize the one fucking guy I'm not Iinished and you're gonna sit there and be quiet until i'm done You need to get your your anger under control here. All right The idea that one criticism levied at him is some sort of attack on him as a person as as part of the movement It's not what i'm saying We have to develop nuanced opinions about this because we all want for the most part the same thing What we're having now is growing pains within the Episode 90 movement because we cannot decide if this is an ethno-nationalist movement Or if there's a multi racial catholic movement and that is the issue that is the heart of the issue This is why you're crashing out, dave [00:54:43.540] Dave Reilly: I'm not crashing out. You're crashing out. You're just not part of the same movement. That's it I'm part of the movement that is going to put america Iirst and free america of israeli zionist control [00:54:54.420] Rebecca Hargraves: That's all that matters. Do you care about do you care about white people in other places in the world? [00:54:59.780] Dave Reilly: Uh right now. No, I care about america What am i? That's an insane position. What can I possibly do in ireland? That's how I feel about america though What can I do in america? I don't know you could fucking vote. Do you think it would have made a difference? [00:55:12.980] Rebecca Hargraves: Do you think that if I got out there and told everybody oh gucan is insane? Everybody shouldn't do I I don't think it really would have made a difference cordillane. It's kind of gone to the wolves And we and I mean I guess we can vote we can see if things are gonna get better But we're so deeply inIiltrated. How much does it really matter post falls was going to be Iine [00:55:30.660] Dave Reilly: No, it wasn't the zionists were coming after post falls post falls is considerably more conservative than cordillane No, it's the same amount of people only eight percent turned out in cordillane eight percent eight percent Turned out cordillane 28 percent turned out. No, you're wrong. I have the numbers right here. Okay, uh, there are 37,800 registered voters in cordillane dan gucan got 3,265 8.6 percent [00:56:03.380] Rebecca Hargraves: Yeah, okay. I mean eight percent came out and voted. I mean, what do you what do you want? This isn't my fault because I didn't say it's your fault. I'm just saying this is my fault [00:56:11.700] Dave Reilly: I'm saying that you're not offering any solutions. Nick fuentes is the only person that has any solution Arbal solution. No bullsh**t arbal solution is to go f**king hide in the woods [00:56:22.820] Rebecca Hargraves: No, he's talking about creating communities of like- minded people [00:56:26.420] Dave Reilly: To do what to create to have kids and then in what 50 years Something's gonna happen bullsh**t if we're all in agreement that white america is in an existential crisis And something has to be done right now Nick fuentes is the only one The only one that is offering any kind of solution anything positive for anyone to go do Arbal solution is to do white Ilight Ilee the cities and go hide in the woods I am not gonna be insulate and icely doing the rob dreyer benedict option bullsh**t [00:56:56.180] Rebecca Hargraves: I'm not going to be put in a position where we have somebody in the movement that I cannot criticize even mildly without getting Groyper crash outs like this. This is insane blackpilled is milking bees. This is an insane reaction to a tepid Episode 90 opinion that I had about nick fuentes and this is what great This is the gripper reaction. It's like so crazy and over the top emotional like nick's reaction to arbal all arbal did with Dm him and ask him a question. He's you're dead to me. You're dead to me It's like can we all have a nuanced discussion about what our movement means without f**king crashing out? It's insanity. It's insanity [00:57:31.140] Guest: Dave [00:57:33.380] Cameron M: Well, look listen guys, um, I understand the passion and uh, it's good Passion, right? It's it's needed because there's a lot of energy right now and uh, that's a good thing I I think there are bigger forces at work here, right? That's something I've talked about from the beginning of the podcast I do not believe That what's going to solve our problems is democracy. I don't think what's going to solve our problems is some kind of political movement But at the same time we do have to take some sort of political action and Dave is correct That political action over the last several years has been Centered in the gripper movement. I think that that's a fair statement to make However, that's not the only thing that is going on. There are other things That we've got to consider. We've talked about a banking crisis. We've talked about the economy We're going into a very different political environment right now and all manner of change is going to happen You're going to see new people emerge So I don't think that we live or die Based on what this particular character is saying that being said nobody here is disavowing right? We're not we're not saying that this movement or that this political organization is invalid Nobody's saying that what we're trying to do I suppose is just keep us on track and make sure that those boiler plates are there And foundational to all of it is the idea that we have to restore The white demographics control and balance of the country Abandoning that mantra and I'm not saying that that's what he's arguing although I have questions After seeing that excerpt That must be maintained because without that there is no America You cannot have an America Iirst if you can't deIine what the united states is all about And if you take us out if you take the white population that founded and built the country that speaks english that practices Christianity right whether it's Protestantism or Catholicism or what have you There is no America and these succeeding generations of immigrants from other countries. They're not a part of that They don't know anything about it whatsoever We've got to stand strong on this particular issue and as I said, I'm not saying he's moved off it But that clip raised some questions and others had them too [00:59:53.620] Rebecca Hargraves: And we are responsible for keeping our leadership on track if we have principal differences with somebody then it is Iine for us to be like Why do you think this is this what you're saying and that's all anybody was doing asking question That's all I was doing. I don't need to be like dead to nick fuentes Or you suggested that I think we should kill him like I'm not saying any of the shit. I like nick. He's highly charismatic He's the greatest orator of our time. He's done a lot of really good work. He sacriIiced greatly for the movement I want to see him represent our interest because he may be the only person that can do it at this point in time But that is why people are being hard on him and that is an acceptable way to To prime your leadership to keep your leadership accountable because we have all a sacriIiced All of us have sacriIiced. You're not the only one dave. I have sacriIiced nick has sacriIiced All of us have sacriIiced for this movement and we want to see it on track We want to see it to continue to represent our interests and that clip Episode 90 made me concerned that it is diverging With my vision for the movement and and what I think other ethno nationalist vision for the movement is as well And I think that some of these concerns are are warranted and I don't think there's anything wrong with saying that I shouldn't have to be afraid that that people are going to ruin my life because I asked some questions I just asked some questions. I mean good lord. I I want the nuance back. We should be able to talk about these things [01:01:15.220] Cameron M: Yeah, the the other thing too is if you go back and you look at what ben Shapiro said And you examine it in detail what all of them want to destroy Is ethno nationalism and they want to destroy that because they fear it because they recognize its power And that's the secret elixir that we've got to tap into now I know others, you know, I know people that think orthodoxy is a solution or catholic nationalism or what have you And I do think those things have merit and they are part of the discussion that we have But none of that can exist if you take away the ethno nationalism that built the united states You take that away. There is no movement. There is no opposition. We might as well call ourselves a poor bastardized republican party and we've all seen what that's what that's produced. So I I think what rebecca is saying makes sense to me. We just got to keep on track And uh and maintain what has been built largely by fuentes over the last what Iive to ten years [01:02:18.580] Rebecca Hargraves: That's crucial and there's a fundamental disagreement here about Whether or not we need the masses to succeed or we need a very competent Vanguard and I am in the camp that we need a very competent vanguard if we do big tent conservatism Even if it is anti zionist that that doesn't ensure success because the inIiltrated the the uh the movement is already Necessarily inIiltrated by minority interests. So where are we going to be? [01:02:46.980] Dave Reilly: And who's pushing for big tent conservatism? I think that nick is obviously pushing. No, he's pushing for big tent america Iirstism Which is totally different. Okay. How is that different? It's different because it's about putting america Iirst big tent conservatism Is exactly what ben shepiro was talking about. We built this movement. This is our conservative movement It's our republican party blah blah blah. That's big tent conservatism big tent america Iirstism is fuck you get out of our country [01:03:12.020] Rebecca Hargraves: A bunch of minorities being like fuck you get out of our country Is there another way what what is the demographic breakdown that you would Iind acceptable? What is the the lowest number of white percentage wise in the america Iirst movement that you would Iind acceptable? [01:03:25.940] Dave Reilly: It doesn't matter what the percentage is in the america Iirst movement I mean we've talked about what the percentage is in like an actual area and it's about 14 percent [01:03:32.980] Rebecca Hargraves: So let's say that the america Iirst movement mirrors the national identity Demographically and it is which is what that was. I mean it was traditionally about 13 percent white now It is yeah, the america Iirst movement is 60. Let's say that it's 61 percent. Is that acceptable to you? Episode 90 [01:03:48.420] Dave Reilly: It's overwhelmingly way more white than that if you've ever been to a af pack if you've ever been to a [01:03:53.300] Rebecca Hargraves: This is a hypothetical. What what is the lowest threshold that you would Iind acceptable in an america Iirst movement for white? for white inclusion if [01:04:02.500] Dave Reilly: If any movement out there That was for jesus christ For america and against israel. I don't care what the demographic population is. It's about being right. It's about doing the right thing [01:04:16.180] Rebecca Hargraves: Period but these people are going to have tribalistic self interests sure they are then they don't represent my interests [01:04:22.500] Dave Reilly: And I can't be a part of our interests are putting america Iirst and getting rid of israeli interests [01:04:27.780] Rebecca Hargraves: My interests are getting rid of israeli interests and putting white people Iirst [01:04:32.420] Dave Reilly: Internationally sure again, we're still stuck at the Iirst part of that which is getting rid of the zionist control of america [01:04:37.940] Rebecca Hargraves: Yeah, Iine, so then we can Iight after that We disagree on how to do that and like I i'm gonna need some assurances that um We're going to clean up the movement after getting rid of of zionist control like what's gonna happen here America Iirst gets rid of zionist control in the government and then they're like Oh, all you black people and minorities gtfo out of the movement. That's not how things work once power is taken by any group It is never given back. He's not going to be able to reshape and reimagine america Iirst once this takes off In a multi ethnic fashion. It's just never going to happen and like [01:05:11.620] Dave Reilly: But his whole messaging isn't about a multi his whole thing has been against for years He has railed against the idea of the multi ethnic working class civic populism [01:05:22.580] Rebecca Hargraves: Then why then why is he saying that he doesn't care? He doesn't care about somebody's demographic situation if they're america Iirst because right now that's all that fucking matters [01:05:32.260] Dave Reilly: Right now all that matters is making america american again making america working for its interests again putting america Iirst [01:05:39.620] Rebecca Hargraves: That's all that matters right now making america american again means making it white again [01:05:45.220] Dave Reilly: And that's going to be a big part of this deporting [01:05:48.260] Rebecca Hargraves: 25 50 million people which which nick went as in his movement. Is he going to help make america white again? Episode 90 [01:05:55.540] Dave Reilly: Uh, yeah, he's going to be if he were like president or whatever the fuck But that's not even where we're at which is again why this whole conversation and argument is so fucking stupid right now Because we're not even there yet. You're like Nick frances with president is he going to deport the illegals? Is he going to deport the browns and the nones like Can we please just get to the point where our country is it controlled by josh? [01:06:21.620] Rebecca Hargraves: I totally disagree the Iirst thing you when you do when you have a Iledgling business is you write a comprehensive business plan That's what needs to be done with movements That's why we're having this argument right now because nobody had nobody can agree on what the tenets of this movement are Laying these out is of the utmost importance cameron. Can you get in there? [01:06:39.940] Cameron M: Well, I do agree with Dave in the sense that You know, we are in a state of becoming and that is going to evolve and change over time There's no question about that and I who knows where we're going to be in in a few years um [01:06:56.020] Guest: look [01:06:57.620] Cameron M: As much as we like to talk about this These sorts of issues it is it is frustrating And it is frustrating because at the moment These conversations are being had a lot online on various podcasts. In fact, I was just talking to Somebody that watches our show about that and he said, you know, everybody's talking about Zionism now everybody's talking about the usual lobby everybody's talking about immigration a lot of the things that we talk about but The question becomes What what are we going to do about that? When does this translate into real? action now What I what I think Which which is somewhat Different from you guys to be sure in part because I'm not a Politico you guys are politicos And so your frame of reference Are all things political not necessarily just voting But what happens in social media what happens on twitter, you know things of that nature and that's not insigniIicant But it's not decisive I I started my career when I was uh When I was working in I worked in tech for about six years. I started my career in sales and In sales and I I did it the hard way I worked Uh cold calling by a telephone. It's awful. I don't know if you guys have ever had to do that. It's absolutely horrible And uh the Iirst three months were particularly brutal. I did it about four to six hours a day So it's not like I was doing it 10 or 12, but Four to six hours a day just going through a phone book and trying to Iind clients Not fun And the Iirst 90 days or so were particularly bad I used to I used to go out to my car and I would spend maybe 20 minutes screaming at the top of my lungs Because it was so brutal after that Iirst 90 days I started to break through and I started to understand the dynamics of selling people Of of cold calling itself and yeah, certainly rapport was part of it connecting with people Maybe Iinding indirectly something that you could relate To them with you know, what have you whatever in any case? I did that and I became very successful As a sales person But I hated it and I hated it because ultimately What you do in sales as I'm sure many people in our audience know is you have to sell a dream You have to sell This sizzle right you have to create A marketing program and draw people in And I I never particularly liked that because I didn't Iind it all that substantive one But two what I quickly discovered in tech Was that the sales pitch was always More than a few degrees off from actual Delivery from the actual product itself So about a year or so after I started I got into The delivery side so typically there's a sales side We actually had to sell the product you have to grow a client Episode 90 base and then eventually people like me Um, we went to a delivery side We actually implement the product and this could be quite extensive But there's always a handoff after the sales process that goes to delivery And when I took over projects as a as an implementer The Iirst thing that you do is you meet with a client And you go through this process of truth telling so everything that was pitched during the sales process Is then thrown into sharp relief and now you get down to brass tacks and it's usually an ugly uncomfortable conversation because more often than not the salespeople sold the dream and it was a lot of bullshit It just wasn't factual. It wasn't Accurate to what the product actually was it did whatever they Whatever the the client wanted is what it did and it came to me and my delivery team and I had to say Look man, it doesn't actually do those things. Here's what it does do And when we had those conversations And however ugly they may have been from that moment forward all of a sudden things started to change because the the Iictitious That the Iictitiousness the fantasy of the sales product That was over that story died and then a new reality that was based in foundational truth Ugly truth in many cases all of a sudden that was the rock bottom bottom foundation to build everything And I started with a couple projects then 10 and 15 All of it because of that truth telling we are at a moment in time now Where the sales team which has been operating for the last Iive to 10 years Which has been evangelizing a lot of the ideas that we discuss Those ideas are attractive. They're drawing crowds Right. They're entertaining. That's why people watch a lot of these shows But they're not delivering any results yet and they're not delivering any results because as as bad as things Are people have got a choke [01:12:16.660] Guest: On the truth [01:12:18.020] Cameron M: They've got a choke on diversity to demand That shit actually happens And that's when the implementation team that's actually going to save this country. I call it the reconstruction team That's when they're going to show up And I don't think we're all that far removed from from that moment But I say all of that to say this what's happened over the last Iive to 10 years is not insigniIicant It's been preparation for what is to come But the people that are going to implement these changes, they're going to be very different They're going to be no bullshit truth tellers When the population is ready to hear it and get the job done What we have to do is hold the feet to the Iire and say look These are the facts of the matter. These are the things that must be done Because if they're not done this country is not going to be saved and one of those Obviously is ethno-nationals and that's why this is an important conversation to have now But I do think inevitably one way or the other That's where we're headed. We are headed towards that delivery towards that implementation team when the population is Iinally ready For ground zero truth. We're not there yet. I think we're going to get there [01:13:31.300] Rebecca Hargraves: But can we heal this this divide between ethno- nationalists and and groipers? I mean we we have to or we're not going to have individual numbers to [01:13:42.980] Cameron M: If if Dave is right, there is no divide [01:13:46.340] Dave Reilly: Well, maybe he's right. Well, here's here's what I would say right and what I would say is that you need to Get off your ass and go do something and one of the things I did a podcast On I think I released it on sunday Talking about there's the Episode 90 upcoming primary, you know, we're all looking at 26 28 These different like electoral landmarks or whatever But there is a primary election between now and then and I think that that primary election is a lot more consequential than people know Because most people are totally tuned out. They don't understand how the republican party works And if you are listening to the show and you want to put your people Iirst You want to put your country Iirst and you want to actually see something happen in america That's different than what's been happening Then you should be getting involved and running for a precinct committee spot in the republican party 30 to 40 of all of these precinct committee seats across the country are vacant Nobody is in them. You can just get appointed. You don't even have to wait For the election. You could just go get appointed. That's number one number two We have a very different demographic than nick has we have 25 to 45 male that's our demographic Right. Nick's demographic is 16 to 25 I mean, I I I did a thing the other day where I went to the gym Uh, and I took my phone and I I helped, you know, put it up on the sauna so I could watch nick show Uh, and A bunch like four young kids came in from the local school. They were in the football team or whatever And they all looked at the phone and then they all looked at each other trying to Iigure out whose phone it was And then they saw me with my earpods in And it's like oh, hello And they all were on board all of them And I've been doing this more and more in public and it is clear I'm getting text messages from grandmothers and people with kids That are saying my son is now watching nick fuentes and this has happened within the last [01:15:47.620] Guest: two months [01:15:48.900] Dave Reilly: And so those kids have a very special role to play in the future They need to not burn themselves now. They need to you know, they do need to do a little hiding their power levels They need to be involved in this inIiltration of the institution and at the same time our demographic 25 to 45 needs to be getting involved in the republican parties and turning it into a party that isn't going to cancel these kids Because they talk like a college duty lobby because they're talking like we talk on twitter, right? So The and this goes back to this my theory that it's everything all the time everywhere Uh, there is no silver bullet. There is no perfect way that we're going to win There is no one strategy that's going to deliver American liberation to the people we have to be doing everything all at once So if our role wants to do a sing in the woods Iine If black pill wants to educate people about how the jews wrote all of the christmas songs Great nick is going to inIiltrate the institutions and I think that we need to be inIiltrating the republican party Running for precinct seats running for county commissioner Running for all of these local seats and getting involved in generating a machine To put our country Iirst because for the Iirst time since maybe charles lindberg People are Iinally aware of what is going on in this country They are becoming aware of the ethnic displacement of white people and they are becoming aware of jewish nepotism jewish power And the control that the israeli lobby has over the government now is the time to strike [01:17:19.220] Rebecca Hargraves: Yeah, black pill has clearly contributed to that revelation amongst the youth Yeah, he doesn't just write i reject this mischaracterization of black pill He doesn't just write about like jewish christmas songs. He does in-depth analysis. It was so good. That was a really good video He has made he's done excellent work in the movement for as as long as i can remember He was the person that that got me into this not Episode 90 fuentes blackpilled And and i assure that many of you guys agree. Wow donations are rolling in we should get in really awful Iights more often We actually had a pre-production meeting and we were like, are we not gonna talk because we were Iighting them too We're like, are we not gonna talk about this and I was like, oh, we're fucking talking about it We're good. Just I was like just bring it out on air. So this is you know partially of my my creating and just for the audience We'll just get over this immediately after the show and it'll be normal [01:18:06.980] Dave Reilly: But we should be We should be doing some I mean, you know We can prep we can get our food get married have kids Educate them raise them love them teach them to love their people, you know But also there's still something more, you know, because i'm prepped. I've got guns. I've got kids I'm educating them now. What what next and what next is this bullshit happening in court of lane? With dan guccon and these freaks from the local zionist church that are running rough shot over everybody And I swear to god over the next four years It is going to be They are going to go and exhume richard butler's body Put them on a truck with a nazi Ilag and start fucking parading them up and down sherman avenue I swear to god, that's what's about to happen. That would be really really funny going to be asinine, uh, but Ultimately, it'll be good for us because we're gonna be able to hey look look what these idiots are doing You know, uh, we can all agree on listen. Oh go ahead. The the national debt [01:19:08.980] Cameron M: Grew by 500 billion dollars [01:19:11.780] Guest: in a month [01:19:13.220] Cameron M: We're adding I looked at this today 23 billion dollars [01:19:19.220] Guest: per day [01:19:20.500] Cameron M: The national debt at the same time that this is happening There is I think the specter of a very serious banking crisis That is happening not just in the shadow banks. So these are the non-depository Financial institutions, right? So the unregulated Lenders that are really getting money for the big banks Anyway, they're starting to experience liquidations defaults bankruptcies Then there's problems in commercial real estate We know about the buy now pay later. We know most americans are living paycheck to paycheck We know that there's a government shutdown and there's some 40 to 50 million people That are dependent on the federal government for food stamps at the same time We are actively Iighting proxy wars all over the world. We're Iighting in Venezuela We're Iighting in the middle east obviously Because of the israeli lobby and the Zionist control of the government as david said a moment ago We're still engaged in this proxy war against Against russia in ukraine a war that's seen millions millions of people killed Or displaced we haven't seen anything like that Since world war two at the same time we've got tens of millions Of illegal immigrants in this country that are organizing themselves politically That are challenging federal law and federal law enforcement and doing so violently and they're being encouraged or being spurred on by local mayors And we just saw this guy mom donnie in new york city Who was elected and i have heard anecdotally david correct me if i'm wrong some 20 to 30 percent Of the constituents that voted for him were jews correct I don't know if it was 20 to 30 percent of his coalition or 20 to 30 percent of the jewish vote in york city The jewish vote in york city is decisive and they voted essentially Episode 90 against their own interests For their own self-destruction and look this is a great thing Because this is going to push new york city as a municipal metropolitan government That's already bankrupt. It's going to push it right over the edge Okay, and then you're going to start to see Handouts from the federal government and then you're going to start seeing the federal government ask one state to bill out another The whole thing is a cluster. Fuck. It's a mess. This is an emergency Environment it really is don't take my word for it. Ask your neighbor What his economic prospects are how his marriage is? Things are a total mess and that means we do have to take action But I think we need a new party We need to reimagine our politics in such a way that marries a lot of these things that are not ordinarily considered political You guys have tremendous inIluence on twitter on the podcast. You're not running for ofIice That is instructive that suggests. Yeah, there is a groundswell But there's also a realization as we heard earlier from ben Shapiro that these institutions They don't need to be taken over necessarily what they need to do is collapse any of themselves and we need to build new things So you're 100 right, dave. We can't just sit around and fritter about waiting for the end of the world We've got to build new shit and one of the things I like about dave in particular Is that he is always active. He's a busy body participating in this process and that's exactly what you should be doing this podcast Is an effort to do exactly that it is a staging ground and guess what folks? This isn't just politics. We have people that connect with us for economic reasons I know because rebecca has told me people have met their spouses in these communities There's a lot going on right now and it's about to kick into gear Because shit is falling apart and it's accelerating. That's why the jews are at enforce Because they know they're losing control of a very dangerous situation. That's true [01:23:30.500] Rebecca Hargraves: And that is the most positive development is this jewish crash out, which is why we talked about the jewish coalition for so long [01:23:36.820] Dave Reilly: I'm still waiting for alan durstscher. What's promised to blow his brains out if mom donnie won I'm like waiting [01:23:44.340] Rebecca Hargraves: Was he a mr. Foot rub? [01:23:46.740] Dave Reilly: I didn't take off my underwear But really look at this look at this it's like these are the options we've got yeah, you got alex soros and netin yahoo Well, you know There's a part of me that's like fuck netin yahoo. Let's go with soros. But yeah, really they both suck You know, but at the same time, I you know with the mom donnie thing I'm feeling a little bit better than a holy shit six phone calls. Who's calling? [01:24:11.060] Guest: um [01:24:12.900] Dave Reilly: one was from jake shield, so I'm like uh [01:24:14.980] Rebecca Hargraves: uh [01:24:16.100] Dave Reilly: But um, you know with this with this mom donnie thing that's going on, you know and Let me let me do this twofold uh because it's the same historical example I'm gonna go to and I'm gonna get in trouble for it But I don't really give a shit. It's gonna be controversial my boy musselini. Okay. I'm italian I know I've got a little bit of an afIinity for the old world. I do um, and when you look at like the the the critique of dick Oh, Episode 90 well, he says one thing this week and one thing that week Mussellini wanted to kill the king and he was an anarchist for years for years And then all of a sudden when shit started falling apart in italy the the the wealthy factory owners came to musselini And we're like, uh, these communists are going to fucking kill me take my money and prevent me from dying And then musselini and fascism became what we know of it today Uh, so there's an angle of it Uh, where things are going to be Iluid things are gonna You know, uh, bang around a little bit until we actually gain power The whole point of this is to get power. It doesn't matter what the platform is It doesn't matter what you have to say to get the power You need to get the power and then wield it to make america america again Uh, and so, you know With that at the same time with what's going on in new york with bomb donnie Mom new york has to has to fall new york has to go through this process of electing a Whatever you want to call them islamic jihadist blah blah blah whatever and hopefully new york will become a much worse place to live Oh, yeah, well, which will wake people up which will hopefully spurn a new candidate on Who is not going to be andrew fucking quomo was it andrew or chris? [01:26:00.740] Cameron M: Okay, I don't I I remember I remember and i'm sure you guys you guys do too I remember when obama was elected. It was a big deal. It was the Iirst black president And at the time As he was running for ofIice There were more than a few people political experts in particular that said look It doesn't matter that the polls show that obama's in the lead or that he's ahead because the reality is That when the majority of the population goes into the voting booth, they're gonna vote Their racist way they're gonna vote against him and therefore we're not gonna have the Iirst black president A lot of people said that and then all of a sudden he was elected And what was not mentioned in that clip earlier about Iifth generational warfare on the jimmy door show was that the tea party out of nowhere Overnight and it wasn't the banking crisis per se wasn't the bailouts per se those things absolutely were important And they did instigate But what put the tea party over the edge Was the election of barack obama because when obama came in that was That was the canary in the coal mine that changed our politics fundamentally and it conveyed to the boomers Those that had woken up That they had completely lost the united states that we despite having a thin majority Could no longer control Electorally who was elected president? It was a shell shock. It was and I remember at the time A lot of the boomers didn't believe it They couldn't imagine it And it happened anyway But what did not what did not the fallout from that was not what a lot of people said at the time people said now We're entering a post-racial america. The republican party is Iinished. It's a regional party. It's not a national party You probably remember this day people said that the right wing in this country is done It's over and what happened is the exact opposite all of a sudden we reinvented ourselves We created a new kind of party and within Within two two election cycles two presidential election cycles of barack obama. Who do you get you get donald trump? So that suggests to me That we are on the cusp Of a major inversion and bear in mind that a lot of the energy that you're experiencing from us on this podcast Is because donald trump is a fraud who did not fulIill his mandate to restore the demographic balance and control of the country [01:28:36.580] Dave Reilly: That's what this is all about. Yeah. Yep. I totally agree and before we get to super chats Episode 90 [01:28:40.660] Rebecca Hargraves: I you know, I want to mention that the reason that we're doing this podcast is that none of us are truly blackpilled Why would we bother? Why would we bother trying to reach people? Why would we bother trying to reach young people? All of us really Care about that. We just have disagreements about how best to get there. I mean, I I believe in a future for white people I really do and I feel very optimistic. I mean, I never in my lifetime thought I would see People openly talking about the juice ever. I never thought I would see this and watching this has been really really refreshing Which is why I'm defensive because I don't want to I don't want to take a misstep right now It seems like it is an imperative time to do everything Correctly and we we're gonna make mistakes and everything like that But I I just want us to be very careful about the way that we move forward and that's that's what this is about [01:29:28.180] Dave Reilly: That's why we're Iighting. That's why my last two cents that I will Drop in Right just fold the computer up and walk out. No, I don't know how to stop the stream. Don't do that Uh, but to Cameron's point this idea of rebirth and change and this becoming I I and I the reason why I'm so adamant about it is because I don't hear anybody talking about it I don't hear anybody talking about a means to do this And I I agree with you most of America agrees these 68 percent of this country agrees That the republican party and the democrat party no longer serve them Right, that is beyond question that people believe that a third party is the answer As a political guy as somebody who has experience running for ofIice political consulting I'm just here to tell you that that is damn near impossible It is in next to impossible to get ballot access It costs hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars to get a new party on the books What you can do, however is take over a party that already has ballot access The number one target for this campaign should be the republican party at the precinct committee levels And that is going to be happening all throughout the next coming months Starting in maybe january or february with these primaries and then concluding in march So that's where I think we need to be laser focused because I I do As a political consultant see and in see the ability for our people To go in and take these seats with the arguments that we have with what everybody has seen over the last two or three years I think that there is a chance to rebuild the republican party in our image and likeness Not in the jewish image and likeness not in zionist apac image and likeness not in Multiracial multicultural whatever in america Iirst's image and likeness. That's what I see I see the talking points. They work. I spent Iive hours on the phone and those talking points work people respond positively to that and so I just I see this option this third way of not White Ilight not creating a new party, but revolution in the republican party I think that's the best option for the next six months that I think we should all be laser focused on That's just my two cents. I see that as actionable as opposed to The amount of signatures that you need to get to establish a new party Like right now that this party for socialism and liberation is down in boise with their Iingers up their ass Trying to they're trying to do that and guess what it's not going very well for them. They're not going They're not going to get ballot access. They're not going to establish a real party The democrat and republican party are still going to be on the books that there is a constitution party in idaho That's very small and could be taken over But they are divorced from the national party apparatus of the constitution party anyway And I think they only have ballot access in like 28 states anyway Episode 90 [01:32:35.060] Rebecca Hargraves: Well, we should be trying everything shouldn't we and yeah, so [01:32:38.900] Cameron M: Keep it. The other the other thing is look we're in a very different environment now and that's what I've tried The stress and I know that that's not very popular because people want something that's concrete And I keep saying look you're going to see Mass mobilization and there's an example That I think is instructive for us in the united states happening in the uk There's a guy named rupert lo and rupert lo was thrown out of the reform party by nizro farage Who's basically a fraud? Our audience from england knows that and i'm not saying rupert lo is necessarily the answer over there However, what rupert lo has tried to build? Is what's called restore uk and restore uk is a movement outside of the political system And you've heard me talk about this before Effectively you already have a new party in the united states. You have the groepers. That is a party it is And now it doesn't have ballot access and some of the mechanics you mentioned, dave. They're crucial no question about it But these kinds of things do already exist and really what you need is a staging ground for organization A platform and leadership. That's all you really need and if we get into an environment In which all of a sudden the government itself Sort of implodes and this is what I think is going to happen. I really do I know a lot of you are convinced that that's impossible that we can always print money Look, uh, a lot of my expertise Comes from the Iinancial sector And that's one of the reasons why we talked about it on this show I know a lot of you Iind it as about as interesting as watching the paint dry But i'm telling you there is a Iinancial a Iinancial bomb An atomic bomb of Iinancial destruction That's coming and that will destroy the full faith and credit of the u.s. Government and that may preclude politics It may necessitate something that stands above it something that's organized outside of it either way however it unfolds Dave is quite right that you want to take action. That is the key [01:34:46.980] Dave Reilly: By the way, brian if you want me to say your name on the stream, can you send a super chat asshole? But it is somebody from the live chat. No, it's a friend of mine. He's texting me. He's like say my name on stream I'm like send us some money. Send us money and i'll say your name on stream brian Let's get to some super chats. Hold on. Hold on before we do the super chats. 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See you guys day feels better [01:36:54.260] Rebecca Hargraves: This was like a therapy session. This was good. It's like he took a big dump and now he feels Look all all the levity has returned to his face [01:37:02.740] Dave Reilly: No, logan orison ten dollars Iirst chatting like nine months since becoming unemployed Finally got a new job the jediIication of the entire job market is absolutely insane dropped a hard R at the new job [01:37:14.260] Rebecca Hargraves: They loved it Careful [01:37:19.060] Dave Reilly: Don't lose your job. We need you out there, buddy Stoic north sent ten dollars. Well any of you be appearing on millenial this year and is vincent ever coming back for an appearance [01:37:28.500] Rebecca Hargraves: On the show vince will be coming back for an appearance on the show and yes Cameron is going to be on millenial not just Cameron. Are you two? Yeah, wonderful. Are you guys separate or together? [01:37:37.140] Dave Reilly: I think we're separate. I'm not sure. I should actually like check my dms. Do you have to ask rebecca? [01:37:42.900] Rebecca Hargraves: Yes, I do. I do have to ask [01:37:45.780] Cameron M: Uh, no, vince is coming back as soon as his hair transplant is complete [01:37:55.700] Dave Reilly: We are going to read this. I'm breaking the Iive dollar and up rule I'm reading it. I have to kato rising sent Iive dollars. Dave your old friend rob black anal sex smith Got on x and blamed the christian man for ruining the maga coalition of gay race conservatism [01:38:13.380] Rebecca Hargraves: The chimp out is hilarious. Did you see this? Yes, and see this is this is why i'm worried. I just had ptsd from stuff like this Okay, I've been around a long time We've been in this movement for ten years Episode 90 [01:38:24.500] Dave Reilly: I feel like unseen because he he was like focusing on some incident that happened in 2022 where somebody called him a n word And was he being an n word? Of course he was and not just it was it was the n word and the f word coupled together Well, was he being an n word f word? Yes, he was and I just feel very unseen right now because I confronted him in 2019 three years before that ever happened And I like he just blocked me and pretends like that didn't happen rob smith I'm still here asshole We're watching you. We're watching you. We are but they replaced him with another homosexual That that guy that was on the beach. What is his name? Xavier? Xavier? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah [01:39:09.460] Rebecca Hargraves: Oh my gosh n word f word [01:39:12.180] Dave Reilly: Michael jr. Two sent ten dollars the question is for Cameron But I would like to hear everyone's opinion since republics are doomed to democracy should america create a monarchy At least if you know who's really in charge [01:39:23.460] Rebecca Hargraves: Uh, can I go Iirst on this one? Go ahead basil? Go Iirst Basil said something really interesting that that I appreciated that um monarchy. Was it basil? I actually I can't remember but but monarchy rises from aristocracy and they're inextricably linked There's no way to separate the two and americans Kind of uniquely just don't have an aristocratic class and we have nothing to return to Who was it that we saw that tweet from who said that he was the the french Louis de bourbon. Yeah, who had like the most perfect face I've ever seen. I'm like, yeah that guy monarchy cool We've got nothing like that in america. I don't think we could institute a monarch even if we wanted to I mean we would have to develop some semblance of an aristocracy. I don't think we could do that Really either Cameron go ahead [01:40:05.060] Dave Reilly: Go ahead Dave. Well, I was just gonna pull up this beautiful picture of Louis de bourbon. I mean He's got it going on. Oh totally. He needs to read. He needs to restore the french [01:40:15.860] Rebecca Hargraves: Oh, yeah, by the way, I got an email after I was talking about how handsome that guy is I got an email from someone that was like, what would your husband say? I'm like, my husband would care 0% two weeks ago We saw like top 10 hottest women I've ever seen in my life working in downtown court lane My husband's like, I'm gonna go inside and I'm gonna check out this woman real quick And he like went into there to like check her out and everything and he's like, yeah, she's super hot Got into the car. I swear. I swear to you. I felt nothing Like no jealousy We're just deep enough into the marriage that there's like there's no chance of inIidelity and I Neither of us are jealous like you get married and you don't you don't stop looking at other people's beauty [01:40:57.780] Dave Reilly: I wouldn't even want him to yeah, I look away from women. I like I just I I look down. No, but it wasn't like I went like when I go to the gym I have my hood up and I look like really angry, but I'm not like That's what we could game with the ladies, man. That's right. I can't even make eye contact with them. You got to wrestle them off [01:41:14.100] Rebecca Hargraves: No, but it's not like that power like you can look at this guy and be like that that guy looks like he was carved That's a handsome man handsome man and my husband wasn't being lustful either. He was just like, oh, she's a she's a beautiful specimen He's really spriggy Episode 90 [01:41:28.900] Dave Reilly: As far as the institution of a monarchy in america, no chance No, I don't think that's ever gonna happen. I don't know if I mean if there's some sort of like War or battle or like a real civil war And there are like actual heroes You know like folk heroes that are minted out of this conIlict Then maybe there's a chance that that that person that is like a nap like like a charles lindberg type where he was like a National folk hero, you know, maybe something could have happened there um, but no, I generally don't think uh, but but when when you Theor but when you speak theoretically about political systems monarchy is the best Uh, but we don't have that here. I don't think we're gonna have that here um, but at the same time, uh I I do see a path forward for a dictatorship for fascism But that would be very different than monarchism. So yeah, it would be better. That's my take cameron [01:42:32.980] Cameron M: Okay, the correct answer here is Senateist ultimum So if you go back to the roman republic Built into their constitution. Yeah, they they had a constitutional frame framework of government uh, there was a condition called senateus ultimum And that condition was struck when there was an existential crisis to the roman state Right when the roman republic itself was facing imminent destruction They would dissolve the senate and they would they would appoint two Proconsuls one who reigned in rome and the other who is the head of the army This is sometimes associated with martial law or something of that nature basically extra constitutional powers That concentrate executive authority in one particular person or party or group to solve an existential crisis this is uh This is different than saying we need to change our structure of government, right that we need to be Antidemocratic and often this frustrates a lot of people On the right because they don't know how to articulate exactly what they want because nobody wants to live in a dictatorship per se And even for the roman's dictatorship was a temporary phenomenon This is why julia seizer was killed before you had the rise of the seizers in any event. You need a temporary transitional government that Concentrates power and executive authority to solve major problems. This has happened by the way in various forms throughout american history lincoln Ablished extra constitutional powers at the time of his presidency. So did george washington So and a lot of this is associated with the insurrection act for example isan hara did so in the 1950s After uh after the korean war and obviously fdr did during world war two these things have happened before That's what's necessary to solve our our problems now tethered to that We do need constitutional reform and we need to overhaul it in part because this country And this is something a lot of people Particularly conservatives don't understand the reason why the united states succeeded as a nation and i don't like the word experiment Uh the reason why it succeeded as a nation is because of you people listening to this podcast It's because of the tremendous human capital The energy the dynamism the self-governance of the population that settled the united states That's what made us great. This is why we have the podcast This is why we are ethno nationalists because there is no substitute for the white population that built everything The constitution by contrast was always kind of clunky And it didn't really matter all that much Because the government didn't do anything for most of our history until it had to do things and it had to do things during Emergencies like the world wars for example or the great depression We are now in a similar moment and that's why conservatism has failed It's why electing our way out of this out of this problem is not going to work. It's a non starter We need extra constitutional authority. That's on par with what the romans had Called senateus ultima a dissolution of the legislative process Rarily to get things back on track and i'll just Episode 90 give you one more thing here Part of the issue in the united states has nothing to do with subversion It's not all about zionism or the cuban lobby would have you a lot of it is that our systems of governance are [01:46:31.300] Guest: obsolete [01:46:32.660] Cameron M: They need to be overhaul. They need to be modernized like our infrastructure across the united states All of these things have to feed into a visionary revolutionary mass mobilization of the country and i think that's what a Iinancial crisis is going to enable So the answer is it's not a form of government per se that we need. We need a transitional authority That can effectively restore order and remake the whole country. That's what we've got to do and I think that's what's going to happen guys [01:47:03.300] Guest: I really do [01:47:04.900] Dave Reilly: We've got ten dollars from rinehart. Dave is it ankle biting when we criticize trump for not deporting enough Leaders deserve to be harshly criticized when they veer from the message that gained our support Especially when they are in power or closer to it. Yeah, but like come on it's We're talking about nick and talking about nick within the context of like this week where they've been like declaring Jewish jihad on him at the uh republican jewish congress. Yeah, but talk about ankle biting. That's that's [01:47:35.140] Rebecca Hargraves: jihad randy Iine [01:47:37.620] Dave Reilly: And like mark levin are they have is there like a word for jewish jihad? They've got to have i'm sure they've got their thing [01:47:42.740] Rebecca Hargraves: I mean we've seen it in gaza. It's like, you know, they're like little jewish Chihuahua's their chihuahua's with yamakazon And they're they're not to be taken seriously and I only I only played that randy Iine clip because it was so funny bro He's so stupid. He's just like this big fat guy like whoo the jews have never done anything [01:47:58.980] Dave Reilly: He's going to get deported when can we get like how about what state is randy Iine in? I don't know. I don't even know what is he Ilorida? You know, I think he's Ilorida. I guess Ilorida's not going to do anything But I mean like it would be nice to see like maybe a state legislature. They could probably call in and like subpoena How would it be to like subpoena jim rish or mike crepo and be like, you know what? We want to see whether or not you're a traitor and then convict them and hang them That would be nice not that we're for that but legally speaking I think legislatures do have the power to do that be nice to see that happen to some of these traders just saying robert sent 25 dollars Can we just wait until our enemies are somewhat defeated before we continue this poorly timed in Iighting? In terms of the inIiltration versus the hunkered down and tribe up approach. Are we incapable of doing both? No more brother wars. We love you guys. Well, thank you. I agree. No, david [01:48:48.260] Rebecca Hargraves: I are like siblings. My mom the other day was like, you know It's like you and david or squaw and david are squabbling siblings and cameron is just there to like be the dad And that's true. It's you know, that's good. I that's why you guys call Episode 90 me daddy. Yeah, I know right? I guarantee things are gonna be Whatever I heard you call him daddy yesterday And it was an accident and he was saying it sexually [01:49:11.300] Dave Reilly: Stop it Reinhardt sent 10 dollars if fuentes wants to be the leader of the big 10 anti-jewish movement then Iine And some good will even come from that But it's just not what I am personally am looking for if i'm going to support anyone then it's contingent on them being white [01:49:25.060] Rebecca Hargraves: First white I I am with Reinhardt Reinhardt sent another 10 dollars [01:49:29.060] Dave Reilly: I've been estranged from family members over these issues and i'm not going to stand behind a leader with less conviction than I Listen, I don't think I don't think nick has any less conviction than you I I do think that nick may be tempering a little bit to attract a larger and larger audience as he is given this opportunity to Iinally speak to the masses and I don't think that there's anything wrong with that [01:49:49.380] Rebecca Hargraves: I don't know. I like I'm a little hurt. I I know he hates me already because I'm a woman because I've heard him say that on the show before E-girls no e-girls who's got the clip no e-girls ever I understand like I I get that But the my thing about loyalty undying loyalty is that it's got to work two ways And I've been burned before with this trump thing. I was really loyal to donald trump until my position Became indefensible and so i'm trying to be smarter about this this time and i'm like i'm never going to do that with anybody ever again I'm not just going to be blindly loyal [01:50:18.820] Cameron M: There's something else here too, you know and and this is this is really important It's a life lesson for all of us and it's a constant battle to some degree, but [01:50:28.500] Dave Reilly: You have to know [01:50:30.500] Cameron M: Yourself right know thyself as the oracles of delphi said and what I mean by that is you have to know Really what your core competency is? And I think part of the discussion that we had tonight was to say look You know This this person and his and his movement they had achieved something And that's something as you said david is signiIicant um stick to what got you there Continue with that process and push it as far as you possibly can and also Know exactly sort of what what it is that you are Dave thinks that fuentes is is a sort of presidential kind of person. Maybe he is I don't I think he's what you see I think he's a social media performer both are needed Both are important right we all have our our part to play But if you watch a tom cruise movie and you think you think about tom cruise What do you think of you think of this dude running? Right you think of tom cruise basically as an action star because that's what he is Tom cruise wanted to be this in indy movie actor, but that's not what he is He's an action star that sprints in all of his movies. You have to be what you are [01:51:50.180] Guest: That's key [01:51:52.340] Dave Reilly: Uh, we've got oh this one's kind of harsh on how you from anonymous Rebecca you are the problem I poured hours and days into volunteering for a better future for my kids and you couldn't even bother to vote Worse you set that example Episode 90 for others. You are the problem and now you're living with the consequences It's days from an anonymous account. No, it's not days over here like bro. Please next time like put your fucking name on this [01:52:16.900] Rebecca Hargraves: I know for a fact that david gets 40% back when he super chats the show What I heard when I think of tom cruise look at this picture I think about how the center of his teeth don't Iit the center of his mouth. Oh, you're right I can't stop looking at it the Iirst time I noticed it said no woman ever [01:52:34.180] Dave Reilly: What he's also friends of tom cruise face [01:52:39.140] Rebecca Hargraves: But I've got to see this I've got a go go teeth. Yeah, it's really weird I could I was watching maverick and I was like I was like, why don't your teeth align with the center of your mouth? [01:52:49.860] Cameron M: He's obviously a reptilian that's pretty clear. It's like a whole tooth length over [01:52:54.180] Dave Reilly: It's like a half a tooth length over. I don't know. You never got you never got that Iixed. I don't know [01:52:59.220] Guest: I don't know [01:53:00.020] Rebecca Hargraves: You know a little sometimes a little weird dentures or something a little weird. He's aging really well [01:53:04.500] Dave Reilly: Crazy dan zametsan 30 dollars. She says what can we do? Look what we've done. Look at how the people have been rallied nick literally caused joe kent to lose true Yeah, I don't understand how you can hold a black pill position as long as jews are around though It's a million times harder. Who is holding a black? Oh god I think he might have he might have [01:53:25.220] Rebecca Hargraves: Super chatted that before you said that. Yeah, I'm not blackpilled. I feel wildly optimistic [01:53:30.820] Dave Reilly: I I was feeling pretty optimistic yesterday. I would feel great Uh vessel sent ten dollars the idea of conceding the cities of my country is a defeat and I resent and will not accept The cities are ours by birthright and moving to the country even to a homogeneous commune is retarded Rather die trying than forfeit ground. They are our cities. I'm sympathetic to both of these positions [01:53:51.140] Rebecca Hargraves: I also think to some degree that people shouldn't leave the cities Because proximate because we forget when we live out here because we talk about how I don't see a black person for weeks at a time And I feel like There are no problems Until dav gives me this deluge of local government problems that I don't give a fuck about [01:54:08.580] Dave Reilly: The city council as you're tried to enact an ordinance that they would be able to give give themselves emergency powers and kick us out of our homes Episode 90 [01:54:14.980] Rebecca Hargraves: Yeah, I know until dav tells me about this stuff. I'm just walking down my white street like la la la la. There are no problems [01:54:20.420] Cameron M: Everything's saved. But you see how important dav riley is and there are a lot of dav riley's out there. I'm not going to some town hall meeting [01:54:26.900] Dave Reilly: I'm not showing up to that. I know I understand why he'll be there [01:54:30.180] Rebecca Hargraves: But proximity to minorities and minority crime in cities is so acutely Radicalizing and that's going to be really important. That's a good thing. That's a good thing even knowing what I know Sometimes I feel like all is right in the world [01:54:44.020] Dave Reilly: This is also something like a critique of the the traditionalist catholic position as well where you know Granted we got kind of thrown out Of the church after vatican too, but at the same time there's this kind of defeatist mentality of like You know not showing up when the bishop, you know does a traditional latin mass you should show up in donating Tell them that you like it, you know as opposed to surrendering the institutions To all of these dumb hippie commies And so when it comes to the white Ilight thing, you know, I deIinitely agree with that Uh, dan zametson Iive dollars. Oh my god. Absolutely. No, ten dollars and up dan zamet publicly stupid to go against [01:55:26.340] Rebecca Hargraves: We have rules because we're white [01:55:28.420] Dave Reilly: Michael jr. R2 sent ten dollars. You guys need to copy lenin He spelled it lenin like john lenin. It's ellie and anion The normie masses are almost impossible to lead toward a revolutionary aim There needs to be a white ethno nationalist vanguard of the proletariat voting can be rigged True are you suggesting that we rig the voting? [01:55:47.220] Rebecca Hargraves: That'd be awesome [01:55:48.580] Cameron M: Okay, you don't need you know again, we've talked about this and I think we're all on the same page on this one But the normies are irrelevant. They don't matter. Yeah, I was talking to somebody about this Uh, I want to say last week we were talking about the 1960s and I said, uh, Last I checked If you go back to the 1960s a decade later White america didn't just wake up and say, you know what? I support all the progressive policies. That never happened It was always a small minority of people Someone called a vanguard. Someone called it subversion. Whatever They pushed this whole country in a completely different direction off track as as we well know If it can be pushed off track by a small minority It can be pushed back on track by a small minority, right? [01:56:39.220] Dave Reilly: Sorry for a second. I this popped up on screen and I was like, oh norm mcdonald and tom cruise What happened? No, that's just tom cruise now. Those are both tom cruise. Oh [01:56:48.260] Rebecca Hargraves: Which one's more recent? [01:56:49.780] Dave Reilly: I don't know but that guy he looks like norm mcdonald in that and I can't unsee it and it's freaking me out I'm reading the Iive dollar super chats We got a Episode 90 couple dan zamett sent like a couple of Iive dollar super chats that totals up to 10 dollars Quote, I just asked some questions. No, you took a cheap shot on our actual greatest ally in our time of need [01:57:07.620] Rebecca Hargraves: I'm not allowed to disagree with him. That's that's a retarded position that we would never uphold for anybody else This is like mega tarred stuff like oh, you can't you can't levy any criticism against donald trump because he's our savior We've been here before did you people learn nothing? people are They're fallible. They fail you you have to keep hasn't failed You have to keep your wits about you and treat every leader with a modicum at least of skepticism [01:57:33.780] Dave Reilly: You people need charity. You need to look at what he says [01:57:37.300] Rebecca Hargraves: Charitably, you're like the point is that they're looking at him. I don't like that woman talking about me I have been charitable as fuck and I still like him. I still think he's charming and adorable and he's an excellent order And I mean, you know, I've given him all this charity He I disagree with this one thing that he says and suddenly like I want to kill him or whatever [01:57:57.940] Dave Reilly: You guys all need to get it together. Do you want to get a content strike? Get it together? I love this clip [01:58:02.980] Rebecca Hargraves: I'm gonna have such weird dreams. Are we gonna get a content straight? Oh, deIinitely It's so it could not be worse it looks like it's from like 1997 [01:58:26.660] Dave Reilly: It looks like a frick fucking junior a wide video the boomers cannot comprehend the levels of propaganda that their grandchildren are being Inundated with on instagram. It's it's truly incredible Andrea's oxen are sent a hundred dollars Where did it go? There it is context was everything with nicks clip before we can have a white country. We must defeat zog I love you guys all make great points best episode yet [01:58:52.900] Rebecca Hargraves: Thank you so much. We really appreciate it [01:58:55.460] Dave Reilly: Dan zamett sent Iive dollars blonde your take is stupid You have no concept of what's what it's going to take to achieve victory and because of that You and like-minded wicknatch could literally ruin it for everyone [01:59:06.580] Rebecca Hargraves: Do you guys know what it's really going to take to be victorious? Do you know the amount of horrible Violence that's going to have to occur for true. I I don't think that you understand what's coming here It's like oh this one guy is going to be our savior and if you talk against us You're going to stop the movement from certain victory. It's like what the fuck do you people have any idea? [01:59:30.020] Dave Reilly: What is coming it's going to take all of us It's going to take all of us and I just think that get off my ass Dan zamett I just think we could be focusing on randy Iine a little bit more [01:59:41.620] Rebecca Hargraves: Don't make me focus on that guys Episode 90 [01:59:43.940] Dave Reilly: Crisis king arville is a wake-up waiting to happen and hiding in the mountains didn't work for the weavers rebecca Beyond being a keyboard warrior. What have you done to help in real life to make this country better for your kids? [01:59:54.500] Rebecca Hargraves: I had kids the fact that I can even have a part-time job is like An astonishing accomplishment for a mother of small children Uh, what do you want me to do here? Do you want me to put my kids in daycare so I can work for the cause? I can manage this show and I'm barely doing that. I want you to cook dinner Yeah, I cook dinner all the time. Do you guys know how fucking tired I am my baby woke me up last night? 10 times 10 times. She's got a fever. There are boogers everywhere. I'm dealing with dogs Cook and my husband dinner breakfast lunches cleaning Outline like I'm I'm so stretched thin. I cannot do anything else. Stop asking me to do more shit Stop asking me to vote. Stop asking me to give b-roll vote vote No more [02:00:45.140] Dave Reilly: Reinhardt sent ten dollars. I don't appreciate the condescending line. What are we double we lost cameron. Oh, did he just like quit? [02:00:52.980] Guest: Oh [02:00:54.260] Dave Reilly: He is it's like Iive o'clock in the morning where it is. So he might have sent us a message He might have can you check? Reinhardt sent ten dollars I don't appreciate the condescending line about hiding in the woods while people like you are walking into balaboos and asking Politely for your government to stop genociding your people as if they will suddenly start caring. Oh, he's back [02:01:13.220] Rebecca Hargraves: Cameron, do you want to go to bed? It's no big deal. If you want to go to bed. You can it's late Have a little sleepy sleep. We're not going to murder each other probably [02:01:19.860] Cameron M: Daddy can't go to bed before the kid [02:01:23.620] Rebecca Hargraves: Bro [02:01:25.620] Dave Reilly: Well, no listen listen when i'm when i'm when i'm talking about voting and getting involved in politics I'm talking about this shit at the local level. I'm talking about your town your county your region your state and that's where it ends when it comes to uh campaigning for trump or donating to the you know the republican blah blah blah committee for blah blah blah in the senate Fuck all of those people cut them off. Stop giving your money to ben Shapiro. Stop giving your money to these dumb packs that are uh You know allowing these elected leaders to go and kiss the wall But when it comes to local that's that's a different story Locally, you can run your own candidates locally. You can run as a candidate And locally there's a lot that can be done Against the federal government when it comes to electing a sheriff appointing a chief of police You know enacting new ordinances in the city To prevent you know people from blasting hip hop as they drive down the beach You can do things locally that will make your area a better place. So that's what i'm talking about I'm not saying that at the federal or national level. We're gonna vote our way out of this But at the local level, we've got to be we've got to be given everything everywhere all the time Mustang blue 86 and 50 dollars I believe in nick's main point is to seize the reins of power right now. He's the closest to doing so That's true. That's why we should be Episode 90 supporting him. Robert sent 25 dollars I agree with caron the white pill behind this airing out of our differences on our side is a healthy Discourse, which was inevitable, but let's not give Shapiro the satisfaction of watching as bicker as our movement naturally grows We are a team o7 [02:03:05.140] Rebecca Hargraves: Well, we just have to bicker and then get over it That that's the that's the key true. Dave and I will be back on monday with emily yukas true tolerating each other once again [02:03:14.660] Guest: true [02:03:15.940] Dave Reilly: My and and we will be drinking some of this amazing Coffee from above-time coffee roasters. Can we drink the blonde on monday? Yeah, the blonde roast has the most caffeine I am deIinitely into that mustang blue 86 and 50 dollars that being said he also said that to live in a cohesive society You need a pub populace that looks the same talks the same and believes all the same things true I agree. That's why the heart cellar act sucks so much and the protestant reformation Kidding right hearts and ten dollars while we are building communities from the ground up in nationwide networks of whites that actually Give a fuck you'll be alone clutching your guns not knowing who to trust while we have a standing army already on the move [02:03:58.660] Rebecca Hargraves: See right now you're wrong about that not if you play both sides [02:04:02.980] Dave Reilly: Bro Dan zamison Iive dollars you just said never thought we'd get to where we are no thanks to you We were the ones who were not black killed. Let us do our things Jimmy see sent ten dollars my hood in brooklyn is heavily muslim the voter map showed my district went to qualmo As well as other hoods. I know to be heavily muslim. It was the liberal and jew areas that all went for Mamdani, it was very I think that's true They said that all went to muhammad. His name is zohran. Mamdani I'm amda and I get used to it. He's gonna kick the jews out of new york Thomas moor he's gonna fuck up new york. I don't know man. Thomas moore sent 11 dollars with the election of Span burger and mamdani. Do you feel like there's a considerable threat from future progressive security coalition that will have Zero qualms about ignoring supreme court injunctions redeIining liberty and mass censorship online. Yeah, well, they're the cia This is like the cia deep state coming back out of the ground Cracking their knuckles waking back up taking control. That's what's going on [02:05:08.180] Rebecca Hargraves: Yeah, but violation of these kinds of things it cuts both ways If we seize power we could just indiscriminately be canceling and censoring people and it wouldn't really matter [02:05:17.380] Dave Reilly: We can cancel and censor people without seizing power. We can just do it now. Yeah, I mean ben shepiro [02:05:22.660] Rebecca Hargraves: People on the right are so worried about hypocrisy. It's like, you know, and you know, it's funny too because it's like I've read [02:05:28.340] Dave Reilly: And everybody should read rules for radicals and any any conservative republican that's like, oh, we shouldn't resort to the left tactics Fuck you. No, Episode 90 we're going to use any tactics And if that means switching parties to democrat and running for governor like I did in 2023 we're doing it Nothing is off limits politically when it comes to winning Targeted assassinations disavowed don't do that. That's bad by one Iifth bad big mad lads and ten dollars I want to see I want to like nick but it seems like he always attacks other white nationalists attacking arbol was too far His ego is getting too big. He seems to be nick Iirst. We need to be white Iirst over multi racial america Iirst [02:06:09.140] Rebecca Hargraves: There is a reason for that. I mean to withstand what nick has withstood over the years You have to have You basically have to be like a bona Iide narcissist Just just to withstand those things. I mean, it must have been so terrible. I don't think he's in there. He wasn't when I met him I don't know. I mean, he's certainly got a he has a healthy ego on him. I would say he would admit as much [02:06:28.820] Dave Reilly: Yeah, I think he has a and you do need to have a healthy ego to be in the space Oh, yeah people ankle biting you all the time A real uber mensch sent 88 dollars the best thing for whites is whatever thing reduces jewish power over us We can't afford inIighting. We can do that later right now. We need to apply all efforts to reducing Their institutional power it goes for nick it goes for debon [02:06:50.180] Rebecca Hargraves: Yeah, i'm not going to do any inIighting for like [02:06:53.860] Guest: Two weeks [02:06:55.060] Rebecca Hargraves: Good. I think that's good. That'd be nice moratorium on inIighting for two weeks. How's that? [02:06:59.140] Dave Reilly: Dan zamett sent 10 dollars now israel is the world superpower We are in a gaza like prison state where we are essayed by blacks sexually assaulted by blacks every day because princess wanted an ethno state instead of a 95 percent white country slash mass expulsion of jews with the ethno state coming next year Oh my god, these these groiper hypotheticals. These are great anatomists sent 50 dollars What do you guys think about the heritage american position like thomas russo or general 1776 and taking back our history? Um, i've been hearing a lot about this general 1776 guy. Have you heard of him a little bit? Yeah My dad listens to his podcast spaces like every morning I guess he's he's like six to nine a.m. On the east coast and it's just too early for me to get up Um, but i mean, yeah the whole heritage american thing I mean it's important to understand your history and like look at the Iirst acts of the the congress It was for free white people Right, that's who could be a free white person of good character who had lived here for two years Was who was eligible to be an american? And we lost all of that with heart sellers. So i mean and uh, thomas russo has an open invitation to come on the show [02:08:03.300] Rebecca Hargraves: Anytime you want, oh, yeah, of course [02:08:04.820] Dave Reilly: Um, you know patria front did do some good stuff up here They exposed a lot of corruption and court of lane when they got arrested so [02:08:11.380] Rebecca Hargraves: I retract my position that they were feds. I used to think that really see i never thought that because i Episode 90 [02:08:16.820] Dave Reilly: I knew who these people were for a while. I never i regret that and i am sorry I just didn't like them and now that i've now that they did some they did do a lot of good stuff in court of lane with their trial They got rid of our shit prosecutor Randy no no no west summer randy Iine randy Iine no west summerton They got rid of him because he he committed uh young blood and brady violations against them and they were illegally detained and searched Shit, we're about to retargo. Oh, we are close. I can't even read that Green is too neon dan zametson ten dollars You can stand behind white solidarity, but you're going to be standing there forever because you have no clue how to win How to win what how to win dummy [02:08:56.980] Cameron M: How do you know how to win midnight sunsets and dollars you sound about he's talking about politics look uh Politics is is something we're going to talk about As a relic of the past here. I think for a good Iive to ten years. I mean does politics Most of what we talk about on this program has nothing to do with electoral politics So much that's happening is happening outside of democracy pro forma So it stands to reason over the next i'd say the remainder of the decade You're going to see a total transformation of our politics as we understand it in ways that I I just think we're we're we're at a moment in time In which the whole population is on the cusp of real radicalization And that's going to come not just because the social contract has been breached, you know Some of these things we talked about but because the economy itself is fucked up. That's what the What this all comes down to Is the economic structure of the country right what what is it that keeps all of these tribal groups together? It's those welfare payments when they stop Everything's going to go out the window [02:10:12.580] Dave Reilly: True and we we deIinitely don't have the money. It's gone. It's not there. It's not there and china's yank in our chain too Um midnight sun sent ten dollars just like a g.o.p. Candidate shifting from the primary to the general niggas adjusting his message with over 250,000 registered tp usa students in a power vacuum after kirg's death if he captures even a slice of that crowd [02:10:33.540] Rebecca Hargraves: It's a big win. We didn't even talk about the new york times article Which i know was it was kind of a positive thing because of the picture that they used which is the best picture of nick fuentes That must have been ever taken look at this [02:10:45.860] Dave Reilly: 40 percent of young g.o.p. Staffers align with the groiper movement. We are winning As nick said last night we have breached the outer wall. What was public support of nick fuentes like six months ago? We talked it was like six percent. Yeah, yeah, that's deIinitely up now somebody Somebody should do another poll. I bet I know somebody I could call to make that happen Now there's a couple of polling Iirms out there that are doing some good stuff Uh jessica sent ten dollars. I'm the anon. Here's my name and if you need my and you need to vote to set a good example Okay, well, thank you jessica lady. Apparently. Oh, okay jessica sent another ten dollars make a sandwich for your husband and go to confession [02:11:24.500] Guest: I will do Episode 90 [02:11:26.580] Dave Reilly: Go to you got to go to confession. We all do. I need to go to confession I should go more often thomas morris and eleven dollars. I would argue that the current vanguard of people like spanburger Cheryl and slotkin Did you know that these are Iirst cia operatives to democratic rep and all became national Iigures within a couple of years? They want to introduce censorship. I I've been saying that they were that they were cia [02:11:50.180] Rebecca Hargraves: Thomas I appreciate your support of the show, but I Iind your message is so vexing. Well, I actually think this is kind of a good one [02:11:57.140] Dave Reilly: I mean mom donnie does Uh, he's broke. I mean the the democrat party was very [02:12:03.860] Guest: Jewish [02:12:04.820] Dave Reilly: Very zionist for a very long time and mom donnie I think kind of represents the death of the Zionist wing of the democrat party and maybe these people spanburger, cheryl and slotkin [02:12:15.060] Rebecca Hargraves: represent the birth of the cia democrat party. Did you see that video jews for um, mom donnie that it was It was like an interrabbi's with the tranny rabbi. Yeah, and then they were going around interviewing people that were jews that were campaigning For him and they're like, well, he represents my interests on civil rights. I'm like, what is happening right now? [02:12:34.340] Guest: l [02:12:35.220] Dave Reilly: You know, this is And this is why in my opinion the america Iirst position is the correct position because it's not just about the zionists It's about world jewelry and there are different factions as cameron talked about earlier. There's the hasidics. There's the The zionists. There's the christian zionists. There's different factions and they do go to war with one another from time to time But all of them are detrimental to american interests because they elected a fucking calming in new york yesterday and [02:13:03.620] Rebecca Hargraves: I don't like that. Anyway, sorry. Just getting my shoes on here radicalized by reality since 25 dollars [02:13:08.500] Dave Reilly: We have a multi-front war right now. Nick is in a position where he can deliver his knowledge of zionist subversion to the masses More eyes are on him now He could compromise that by turning by trying to red pill people on race. Who is the new jarrod taylor? We do need a new jarrod taylor. Maybe we should get up on the show. Uh, he he is little [02:13:30.100] Rebecca Hargraves: Zionist. Yeah, he doesn't talk about jews at all. Yeah Michael i love jarrod taylor, but I Iind his explanation for not talking about jews insufIicient [02:13:37.700] Dave Reilly: Yeah, michael collins piper did a treatment in his book the judas goats a long time ago. It's worth reading that Very interesting Rush 1776 and 50 dollars. Rebecca is right. We need to hold leaders accountable america Iirst is the next trust Episode 90 the plan We aren't voting our way out of this the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of tyrants and patriots from time to time thomas jefferson [02:13:59.220] Rebecca Hargraves: I had people literally telling me to trust the plan today. Really? Yeah, like unironically not you. No, no, no I've had a bunch of grippers. I don't I don't trust the plan. I just trust the plan. I'm like a trust neck [02:14:10.420] Guest: different [02:14:11.460] Dave Reilly: Thomas more oops thomas more than 11 dollars. Well, i'm glad you Think the cia dem reps are a threat, but to be honest, I think it's a Three threat congrats on the poll tonight, but I think the world these people imagine Make the censorship days seem like freedom. It will be like covid era times 100 Uh, yeah, if the cia starts censoring people. Yeah, it's gonna be bad Let's see Reinhardt sent 25 dollars. Let's ask cliven bundy how useless it is to bear arms against the government If they ever try to come for rttl, then we are going to make the bundy ranch standoff look like a peace rally Bro, they were like literally who is that guy eric parker? By the way, he lives in southern Idaho. He hates me for some reason Because I support neck But eric parker literally pointed his gun at the feds and he's free and he's telling me that nick's a fed bro. Come on Eric, hey, I don't think nick's a fed. I don't think I don't think nick's a fed Obviously, I think cam's a fed. No, you're the fed Reinhardt sent 10 dollars and all of this and for all this glazing you're doing on his [02:15:14.900] Guest: behalf [02:15:15.220] Dave Reilly: Are you even going to get an apology from nick for saying that he doesn't trust you on multiple occasions? No, probably not and you know what nick doesn't know me jack shit So I don't really give a fuck. Yeah, that's lame though Doesn't matter. Don't care Thomas morse and 11 dollars. I enjoy cam's views But i'm sure what he means of a power structure outside I'm not sure what if he means of a power structure outside of electoral politics He gives various nebulous ideas stock crashes mail up risings, but there is no detail on how all of this will metastasize [02:15:45.860] Rebecca Hargraves: You know, you should be the leader of america Iirst [02:15:48.660] Dave Reilly: But well, you're watching it [02:15:50.660] Cameron M: You're watching an organizational structure. That's that's what this podcast is all about and as I pointed out earlier Now we're a node and we're in a network, right? Now as to the the speciIics of how that is going to operationalize Well, I can't possibly know that it's too soon to say what I am absolutely conIident in however Is that the electoral machine as we understand it that's going to be insufIicient to deal with what what's coming Right if if you have mass looting and criminality in the streets And you have insufIicient organization at the federal level and we know at the local and municipal level. It's a joke Um, that's going to create a very dangerous and uncertain environment And we're going to have to see who Iills that vacuum My great fear in all of this is not that there won't be a reorganization. That's what you're seeing in europe That's what you're seeing in countries like england where new parties are forming on the street, right? Don't take my word for it. All you got to do is is go on youtube and you'll you'll see evidence of this every year The same thing is happening in new zealand in australia. It's happening across western Episode 90 europe as well um, my fear in all of this Is leadership and that to some degree was the subject of this of this podcast. That's what we talked about Leadership can make or break everything. We've seen that with donald trump Look at the energy that donald trump had. I mean basically He was competitive in three presidential elections in a row and he won twice And what has he done with it? And i'm not convinced that all of this is because he's compromised I don't think that that's the case. I think a lot of this is because he's a shitty leader Because he's not qualiIied to be president because he doesn't know how to implement executive authority or discipline He has none of those things so who we select that gets us from a to z that is everything that can make or break us That can take the energy the enthusiasm The spontaneous organization as i like to say on the street and destroy all of it So we've got to be extremely meticulous and i support where rebecca said tonight 100 percent if people deviate We've got to hold them accountable and remember something else here folks. There are powerful actors are right against us [02:18:12.580] Guest: so [02:18:13.460] Cameron M: things like Compromise are a problem. We got to pay attention to that Is it fair to say that donald trump is compromised? Yeah, that seems to be right and and we've talked about that on the show before as well It seems to be that maryam adelson and her cohort of zionist donors completely bought his presidency That's a fucking problem and i think it's destroyed him. I really do and unfortunately as rebecca said earlier She's 100 right the magatards don't accept that they won't listen to you. This is a problem This could destroy everything [02:18:49.540] Dave Reilly: Uh, do we where are we? Here we are dutiful fascists and ten dollars. Dave. Did you work in kansas politics? I think we worked together Uh, I did uh 2018 to 2019. Uh, I was out door knocking for chris kobak. Um, so it's very possible that we cross paths [02:19:07.700] Cameron M: Get in touch. I'm sure whatever Dave whatever became of chris kobak. I remember him. I met him way back when he's an ofIicer [02:19:14.500] Dave Reilly: He's he's still he's still a good guy. Uh, and he got totally fucking chewed up and spit out by the Iirst trump administration Remember that remember that photo of him when he showed up at mara lago or wherever it was trumps golf course and he had The the binder and it said mass deportations on the front of it and they like zoomed in with like a super telephoto lens Uh, yeah, man chris. I still like chris. He he recently Iired william hendrix Um, he was william hendrix was involved in the group chat leak of the kansas young republicans And I I fucking hate the fact that kobak Iired him that was wrong and he shouldn't have done it But that aside kobak has been okay Uh, thomas morris since 11. Dude, I am doing a live stream thomas morris and 11 dollars Let me add another vexing super chat. I think that there is a little lateral argument for glenn yonkins style future government I think a future democratic government is going to overstep morally and then we are going to be in a popularly appealing position to exploit [02:20:15.300] Guest: um [02:20:16.420] Dave Reilly: I don't really know that means other than like if the democrat like when the democrats win In 2028 if they win in 2028, I think that they're going to bring Episode 90 the full force of the state down on anybody To the to the right of mal and I think it's going to get bad. I mean I was seeing video earlier today I could probably pull that up pretty quick of what's going on in ukraine right now And you know, I basically think that that's what america is going to look like. Yeah, here it is. This is uh From earlier today in ukraine A bunch of uh, zelensky's thugs stormed a orthodox church in ukraine As of battalion types, I think that you know, this would be Something we could see in 2028 if uh, oh did I not put that on the screen? I might not have put that on the screen. I saw it. Well, yeah, because we were We were watching it on our screen The viewers didn't see it a bunch of thugs go into a church waving baseball bats and guns around Yeah, I mean, I I could see something really bad happening in this country If if the wrong people get elected for sure Penelope Maynard sent 150 dollars [02:21:31.860] Rebecca Hargraves: Thank you for the big super chat [02:21:33.940] Dave Reilly: Similarly, devon stack blackbilld Ilipped me from a nation white nationalist to a steadfast intractable white nationalist Still fuentes's extemporaneous diatribes are outstanding Totally agree. Absolutely. Thank you so much. Penelope. I'm a huge fan. Bro makes my blood run hot like he starts Screaming about these people and I'm like, uh, anyway rivers of blood send ten dollars On entropy new murdoch murdoch AMA just dropped. We'll be listening to it after the show today Keep up the great work all of you anonymous sent ten dollars. Oh me. Oh my which way to the versi ball Where I saw the beautiful lady heading last week twid love to ask her for a dance [02:22:10.740] Rebecca Hargraves: Sam no, I'm okay [02:22:12.740] Cameron M: Templar send it back send the super chat. Thank you [02:22:17.540] Dave Reilly: Super chat has been deported That's right. I think that Brings us up to date there there there might be some super chats on your youtube channel um, i'm gonna check our btc pay server Uh, this one. Oh come on This is the exciting part of the show Uh, we are up to date there. Let me promise more Send 11 dollars. That's exactly what I mean Eventually after the neo french revolution there will need to be people to call out what is objectively bad And I don't think roepers or zinus can do something like that. It might not be best, but it won't be worst [02:22:56.180] Cameron M: What oh, we got a lot over here this guy's uh, this guy's doing a lot of thinking that's for sure [02:23:00.900] Rebecca Hargraves: DeIinitely go ahead keep thinking brother mawie county keep up the great work guys. Thank you so much jacob winkelman sus Monday I super chat of the entropy under the name black behavior containing the message truce It was not read. I don't necessarily care as long as you guys got the money entropy. So shit. Yeah, it goes back and forth [02:23:16.660] Dave Reilly: I got a text earlier from somebody else What the fuck frank van der sloot sponsors kandace owens. Oh, hmm Bro kandace owens is taking Mormon money. Uh, I don't know probably what the Yo frank come on hook a hook a brother up. You got a you got to sponsor our podcast Episode 90 [02:23:36.020] Rebecca Hargraves: Yeah, really jake jake winkelman again I can't imagine being more emotional than a woman for offering mild criticism of nick I didn't realize nick was christ incarnate. Don't get him started again guys Landcraft says both parties are zionists both parties are non-racist if you go get an anti zionist non-racist caucus That's an improvement. You may have to weigh what their views on race are whether or not to vote that is true Dick boner mr. Dick boner New york city was lost because of the amount of foreign and welfare leeches have crossed the point of no return Same goes for new jersey true It was also true Orwell's goon the greek proverb a society truly grows great when old men plant trees Who shade they know they will never enjoy we have to accept that we will not live to see the full victory So keep the faith truth [02:24:22.420] Dave Reilly: jake of winkelman [02:24:26.900] Rebecca Hargraves: Sorry go ahead. No, no go ahead. Denying criticism of nick is so spiritually brown. I cannot believe it. It's q-coded honestly Um, dude mon says seeing too many completely brainwashed griped hard super shatters anti grope support from me Gropers. Um, I will enjoy pointing and laughing at you in a couple years listen to war strike [02:24:46.660] Dave Reilly: Holy shit frank van der sloot is sponsoring candacellans [02:24:51.940] Rebecca Hargraves: I have to go to the bathroom. What's really quick. This is crazy. Can you read these? Yeah, sure. Yeah, here. Give me this [02:24:59.300] Dave Reilly: Bro frank come on. We need your money. What are you doing? [02:25:03.540] Guest: Where did you leave off? [02:25:06.100] Dave Reilly: Jacob winkelman dude mon did we do that? christ, yeah, we did it already quick to be worked together in the cobalt campaign lmao true Seraphine sent 19 dollars and 99 cents wings will die waiting for that Six foot three yeet chad to show up prioritize nick and his movement as a latino. I can recognize Yeets are supreme, but we need to get rid of j power Iirst then we can talk about sending me back We will be talking about sending you back Very funny or did I did I read backwards? I think you read backwards Or chat tell me i'm looking i'm Iinally looking at the the actual chat. Did we read orwell's goon yet? A greek proverb a society truly grows when old men plant trees who shade they know they'll never enjoy it. I think that's where she left off Uh, new york city was lost because the amount of foreign and welfare leeches that have crossed the point of no return Okay, so I think we're all caught up Very good. Very good. Now. We will awkwardly wait for rebecca to get back from the bathroom [02:26:17.780] Cameron M: I think you have the power brother if you want to end the show go ahead and do it take her away [02:26:22.500] Dave Reilly: It's my show now dark day your show dark day. Do we do we hit our goal or no? We did by the way Uh, thank you all so much to everybody who super chatted the show. We appreciate lightning fast urination Well, women women can do that. I don't get it. You know, we're over here like trickling out a couple Episode 90 [02:26:41.940] Rebecca Hargraves: I've had to pee for like two hours. So what you guys don't know is she didn't actually go to the bathroom [02:26:46.980] Dave Reilly: She just stepped off camera. Yeah, really. Uh, thank you so much for joining us. This is the backlash [02:26:51.060] Rebecca Hargraves: We'll see you on monday with emily yuka. See you guys later [02:27:21.060] Guest: You You [02:28:21.060] Dave Reilly: You [02:28:51.060] Guest: You

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